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50. There was a poll a few years ago that folks in the Middle East thought the US was more interested

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 07:08 PM

Oct 2015

in stability than in democracy there while the people there prefer democracy.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/07/10/most-muslims-want-democracy-personal-freedoms-and-islam-in-political-life/

Then there is this poll in 2012 that showed they are right. Democrats were modestly more supportive of democracy than republicans but a majority still prioritized stability.

http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/18/on-eve-of-foreign-debate-growing-pessimism-about-arab-spring-aftermath/

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Bipartisan push grows for no-fly zones in Syria [View all] riversedge Oct 2015 OP

Well, there are arguments for and against. Hortensis Oct 2015 #1

Exactly what is a 'no fly zone'? 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2

it would mean that we (the US) would declare a unilateral right to blow shit up Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #8

That's kinda what I thought: what could possibly go wrong with that? 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #9

I think Russia's objective is perfectly clear. cheapdate Oct 2015 #26

True atreides1 Oct 2015 #33

"And if the roles were reversed, the US would do the same!" Which does not make it right. pampango Oct 2015 #39

"Most liberals would not support the US using its military to support a friendly dictator" cheapdate Oct 2015 #43

"I'm opposed to any U.S. military involvement in Syria" Good. I'm oppose to all foreign pampango Oct 2015 #45

That's right, we would be the enforcers. zeemike Oct 2015 #11

That's pretty much it. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #15

The US would have to to the UN and get a resolution and support from allies in the region riversedge Oct 2015 #21

I think the Syrian resistance has already lost this one.. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #42

From a humanitarian perspective, a no fly zone makes sense. BlueEye Oct 2015 #3

Perhaps, since they're already there, the Russians might guard the corridor Hortensis Oct 2015 #7

It's stupid. It may have worked in the past, but Russia and Iran TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #4

I wonder if they feel safe suggesting this because they KNOW it won't happen karynnj Oct 2015 #25

Good analysis, especially agree with your last sentence. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #38

Agree. It's our politicians blustering to sound tough cheapdate Oct 2015 #27

That would be dangerous and stupid. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #5

Quote: bemildred Oct 2015 #6

The terrorists don't have aircraft Geronimoe Oct 2015 #10

Your position is naive. This is about trying to take territory from the Syrian regime. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #12

Agree. Syria must sort out its future on its own. cheapdate Oct 2015 #31

How would we prevent ISIS from taking control of the no-fly zone on the ground? Johnyawl Oct 2015 #13

Wasn't this originally about Syrian barrel bombs from helicopters? HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #23

Are we going to shoot down Russian fighters and bombers supporting Assad? KeepItReal Oct 2015 #14

They best stay out of the zone if this gets enacted. riversedge Oct 2015 #20

It won't. The Commander in Chief of US Forces is against it. KeepItReal Oct 2015 #24

A Bi-partisan attempt to undermine the President gets no love from me virtualobserver Oct 2015 #28

Bernie's backing the President on this one Jurassic Fiend Oct 2015 #35

I was glad to see that..... virtualobserver Oct 2015 #36

Remember... odd_duck Oct 2015 #16

Two years ago maybe... Today I'm sure the Russians are laugh their butts off at us. 4139 Oct 2015 #17

Oh, I'm thinking vice versa. We're winning this nonnuclear cold war, you know. Hortensis Oct 2015 #18

Psst, u forgot the ... 4139 Oct 2015 #19

You didn't, but I mean it. Several ways against several nations. Think about it. Hortensis Oct 2015 #22

Agreed. cheapdate Oct 2015 #29

Just wish more of US were in the audience, or at least watching from the balconies. Hortensis Oct 2015 #30

Dream on, dreamer! cheapdate Oct 2015 #32

Congress doesn't run the foreign policy of this country, and its a damn good thing too. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #34

K&R red dog 1 Oct 2015 #37

sounds like Operation Provide Comfort redux azurnoir Oct 2015 #40

stupid DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #41

The first step to war is the no-fly zone daleo Oct 2015 #44

starting a shooting war with Russia over Syria is a dumb idea nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #46

I remember when people were asking jamzrockz Oct 2015 #47

What armed groups would be protected by such a zone? David__77 Oct 2015 #48

Terrorists...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #49

There was a poll a few years ago that folks in the Middle East thought the US was more interested pampango Oct 2015 #50