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cpwm17

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19. Iran doesn't have much of of history of being particularly violent.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

The US certainly does. The Iranians do have a rational need to protect themselves from US violence:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/12/eye-opening-graphic-map-of-muslim-countries-that-the-u-s-and-israel-have-bombed/

This “three-decade war for domination of the Middle East” becomes apparent when we consider how many Muslim countries the peace-loving United States and her “stalwart ally” Israel have bombed:

During Bill Clinton’s presidency, the U.S. bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, and Sudan.

In the time of George Bush, the U.S. bombed Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, and Somalia.

Under Barack Obama, the U.S. is currently bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya. According to some reports (see here and here), we can add Iran to this ever-expanding list. [Update: An Informed Comment reader named Shannon pointed out that in fact the United States bombed Iran in 1988 during Operating Praying Mantis, an act that “cannot be justified” according to the International Court of Justice.]

Thanks to American arms and funding, our “stalwart ally” Israel has bombed every single one of its neighbors, including Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has also bombed Tunisia and Iraq (how many times can Americans and Israelis bomb this country?).

The total number of Muslim countries that America and Israel have bombed comes to fourteen: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Iran, Sudan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Tunisia.

Meanwhile, the U.S. has military bases in several countries in the Greater Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, UAE, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Djibouti, Kyrgyzstan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Chad.


The US did overthrow their democracy, support Iraqi aggression against them, shoot down an airliner flying over Iranian territory. and conduct years of sanctions against them. They know who the real threat is.

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Agree completely -- and this admission is also in keeping with the karynnj Oct 2015 #1
"I'm sure some will, ironically, try to spin this..." uawchild Oct 2015 #2
43% would gladly vote for Ben Carson if he's their nominee. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #3
Nukes deter war. They'd be insane NOT to get a bomb. frizzled Oct 2015 #4
After the US invaded 2 bombless countries but left North Korea alone. hollowdweller Oct 2015 #6
I always said to pro-Iraq war types, "If they had WMD, why would we invade"? frizzled Oct 2015 #7
Then we talked Khaddaffy into giving up the bomb, then killed him AngryAmish Oct 2015 #16
He was killed by his own people, EX500rider Oct 2015 #17
NATO played a prominent role in the civil war daleo Oct 2015 #21
Yeah, we only bombed his convoy Yupster Oct 2015 #22
The problem is, Iran isn't fully rational. Oneironaut Oct 2015 #14
You have no evidence for that cpwm17 Oct 2015 #15
Do you trust fundamentalists who said that their sky fairy wants you dead? Oneironaut Oct 2015 #18
Iran doesn't have much of of history of being particularly violent. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #19
And their country is a theocracy that frequently murders its own people, Oneironaut Oct 2015 #20
Refreshing candor. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #5
one could argue that the Iran nuclear deal is already providing benefits geek tragedy Oct 2015 #8
They seem to intend to comply. bemildred Oct 2015 #9
rejecting the Iran deal would have led to a retrenchment of the status quo geek tragedy Oct 2015 #10
I think Iran will not get too big for its britches. bemildred Oct 2015 #11
The period after the Iran-Iraq War isn't "always." Even 20 years ended in 2007 leveymg Oct 2015 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #13
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