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In reply to the discussion: 'Iron-ass' Cheney and 'arrogant' Rumsfeld damaged America, says George Bush Sr [View all]MinM
(2,650 posts)107. Best & Brightest
Scary to think these clowns were running the Country. As NPR noted several years ago even with JFK's so-called "Best and Brightest" it took real leadership to get through tough times.
BOB GARFIELD: In your review of that film, 13 Days, you made another point about learning from history. It was about the supposition that a president, surrounded by a circle of trusted advisors, can be depended on to make the right decision. And you made a, a connection to the George W. Bush White House. Make it again.
FRED KAPLAN: The point was - I think [font color=blue]George W. Bush had just been elected president, and a lot of people were wondering if he would be smart enough to deal with crises. And the common explanation at the time was well, don't worry, he has a lot of really smart people around him[/font]. And [font color=red]the point that you can take from the fourth draft of the history of the Cuban missile crisis is that the people around John Kennedy were really smart - I mean these were the people that David Halberstam later called, in a note of irony, "the best and the brightest," and yet John Kennedy realized that they really weren't very smart, after all. And the lesson of that is that you can have good advisors but the crucial thing is that you need a president. It's the president who makes the decisions[/font]...
http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/aug/27/missile-crisis-memories/
FRED KAPLAN: The point was - I think [font color=blue]George W. Bush had just been elected president, and a lot of people were wondering if he would be smart enough to deal with crises. And the common explanation at the time was well, don't worry, he has a lot of really smart people around him[/font]. And [font color=red]the point that you can take from the fourth draft of the history of the Cuban missile crisis is that the people around John Kennedy were really smart - I mean these were the people that David Halberstam later called, in a note of irony, "the best and the brightest," and yet John Kennedy realized that they really weren't very smart, after all. And the lesson of that is that you can have good advisors but the crucial thing is that you need a president. It's the president who makes the decisions[/font]...
http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/aug/27/missile-crisis-memories/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021414805#post12
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'Iron-ass' Cheney and 'arrogant' Rumsfeld damaged America, says George Bush Sr [View all]
newthinking
Nov 2015
OP
Remember when Kerry referenced GHWB in the foreign policy debate (the first debate)
karynnj
Nov 2015
#5
And in 2004 our "liberal media" ran cover for w's fuck up in Iraq and helped to ....
Botany
Nov 2015
#12
Exactly! And now they want another try with Jeb to finish off the US. They, are a disgusting and
RKP5637
Nov 2015
#51
First of all, I don't believe Gee-Dubya* hired anyone. If anything, Dubya* as "selected" to be the..
Raster
Nov 2015
#53
Cheney* has admitted he headed the so-called VP search committee and could not find...
Raster
Nov 2015
#63
ISIS is now running wild through the middle east and maybe blowing up that russian plane and ....
Botany
Nov 2015
#82
The BUCK Stops WHERE? .... nope, not under there.. uh, over here? nope.. not in there.. uh...
vkkv
Nov 2015
#22
I had no idea that Cheny/Rumsfeld were President and Vice President in that period.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#27
hey, poppy, remember this: as president, one is ultimately held responsible. of course, those
niyad
Nov 2015
#34
Damage control mode..he wants the next in line for POTUS to be able to use his last
Jefferson23
Nov 2015
#35
He likely means both sons -- the one named president and the one faltering at the polls.
Auggie
Nov 2015
#37
Spoken like an enabler. Wasn't Junior's fault, he just got in with the wrong crowd. nt
raccoon
Nov 2015
#50
Now I'm curious to hear what kind of conversations W. and Papa Bush had back then
PersonNumber503602
Nov 2015
#68
Jeb was Poopy's favorite, Gee-Dumbya* was Babs of the Beautiful Mind's favorite....
Raster
Nov 2015
#90
Why didn't he just come out and say ''criminal'' instead of "hardline'' and ''arrogant"?
YOHABLO
Nov 2015
#74
Bush and his 'Gang' 'actions' painted a BIG FAT TARGET on America and Americans.
Sunlei
Nov 2015
#88