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Moral Compass

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56. Anyone that says this is a fool
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

Trump proves yet again that he is an idiot. This is just the latest in a long series of spouting idiocies. Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya! Build a wall between the U.S and Mexico! Deport the 11 million illegal aliens with a deportation force!
And now this. The death toll in Paris would have been much lower if all of the French were armed.
Let’s look at some recent history.

After the Charlie Hebdo massacre a gun rights organization staged a simulation of the attack to prove their contention that the attack could have been foiled if the writers and editors of Charlie Hebdo had been armed. The January 15th edition of Texas Monthly published a story (by Dan Hoffman) entitled: A Gun Rights Organization Staged a Re-Enactment of the “Charlie Hebdo” Shooting (link: http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/a-gun-rights-organization-staged-a-re-enactment-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting/)

The organization is called The Truth About Guns. The article points out that the simulation was done a dozen times and a key variable was missing—the element of surprise. The participants were not only armed by knew the attack was coming.

The simulation proved one thing and one thing only.

That being armed had little impact on the ultimate outcome. In the absolute best result one attacker (out of two) was killed, but all of the “writers” and “editors” except one died (and that one ran).

This was a simulation put on by an organization that wanted to prove that being armed when attacked by armed attackers would prevent a massacre. They eliminated the element of surprise. Yet they still couldn’t prove the point they set out to prove.

Wrap your head around that one. It was a rigged test created by a group that had a dog in the hunt and they couldn’t make it work.

Trump and everyone that advances this argument every time there is a massacre is simply wrong. There is no objective evidence that turning the world into an armed camp will result in anything than more violence. More weapons mean only one thing--more gun deaths from accident, confrontations that escalate, deliberate shootings, and, yes, criminal acts.

I am so sick of hearing this crap katmondoo Nov 2015 #1
boy, I am with you there... yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #46
Damn Helen Borg Nov 2015 #47
Can somebody just remove that malignant growth from his head already? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #2
gun humpers are unbelievably stupid Skittles Nov 2015 #3
Fuck you very much, Donald Trump. LuckyTheDog Nov 2015 #4
umm people did have guns. that's how they did the killing... gun owners nt msongs Nov 2015 #5
i am so fucking sick of hearing this bull shit . UGH. allan01 Nov 2015 #6
Audience Scarsdale Nov 2015 #42
So says the combat veteran who has been in dozens of fire fights. sarge43 Nov 2015 #7
Yeah, lead us into battle O Great Brave One - LiberalElite Nov 2015 #15
I think the asshole comment should come after the sarcasm tag. gvstn Nov 2015 #20
Your wish is my command sarge43 Nov 2015 #23
Much better. Thank you! gvstn Nov 2015 #36
What "our people" were there? underpants Nov 2015 #8
Nah, the terrorists would just use more bombs instead of guns. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #9
Right, idiot, 300+ would have died! elleng Nov 2015 #10
More guns wouldn't help Marthe48 Nov 2015 #11
man, even the gun nuts can't play that card any more after their own simulations MisterP Nov 2015 #12
Just Repeating Another Stupid Repubic Hair Grassy Knoll Nov 2015 #13
The terrorists had AK47s at the concert... Native Nov 2015 #14
Well, hell, make those available, too! AngryOldDem Nov 2015 #58
Yeah, guns are so helpful against suicide bombers. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #16
They would have exploded themselves sooner, before some people got out. uppityperson Nov 2015 #17
I spent all day arguing on Facebook against this fuckwittery. NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #18
That must be really hard to deal with that. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #22
Dear republicans, please STFU for a bit. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #19
But wait, if they had explosives, then everyone should have explosives, by that argument. Gregorian Nov 2015 #21
Clearly, for safety's sake, everyone should be required to carry nuclear weapons all the time. tclambert Nov 2015 #31
That cracked me up. I know it's not truly funny but the idea of carrying a hydrogen bomb around. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #34
Oh, you don't carry it. kentauros Nov 2015 #37
Wonderful movie. Whole cast was great... especially Peter Sellers: Heil Hitler !! BlueJazz Nov 2015 #48
And the only movie where I'll sing along to the end of the world. kentauros Nov 2015 #61
I hope people understand just humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #24
So you hear a gunshot, see a guy standing there with a gun and pull yours.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #25
Didn't help NYC on 9/11. More guns is not the answer to terrorism & bombs beat bullets Person 2713 Nov 2015 #26
Sure it would have been different. sdfernando Nov 2015 #27
Donald Trump Stands With Gunfuckery. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #28
He is a national disgrace. How embarrasing. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2015 #29
The scenario Donald Trump wants: tclambert Nov 2015 #30
When you're dealing with suicide bombers houston16revival Nov 2015 #32
"Guns are useless against suicide bombers." ustilago Nov 2015 #40
Trump a republican idiot rockfordfile Nov 2015 #33
I agree. IrishEyes Nov 2015 #49
Korea and Japan have tougher laws rpannier Nov 2015 #35
Idiot. Pervert. Disgusting pile of skin. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #38
Stupid clown. Helen Borg Nov 2015 #39
Right... davidthegnome Nov 2015 #41
The "STUPID" is really strong in this one n/t SmittynMo Nov 2015 #43
oh yeah, right Donald heaven05 Nov 2015 #44
Hey DT: Shaddup, ya fuckin' moron. DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #45
Sickening. tabasco Nov 2015 #50
Am I mistaken - I thought they were wearing suicide bomb vests packman Nov 2015 #51
gun humpers and logic do not mix Skittles Nov 2015 #63
Donald Trump needs to strap on his six shooter and head for Paris - Right Now! NonMetro Nov 2015 #52
And George AWOL Bush to "keep 'em safe!" n/t tabasco Nov 2015 #53
One way tickets for both? NonMetro Nov 2015 #54
Does he mean more deaths at theater chelsea0011 Nov 2015 #55
Anyone that says this is a fool Moral Compass Nov 2015 #56
man, they laid into *Malala Yousafzai*: they're just pandering for votes MisterP Nov 2015 #60
How would guns have defended against suicide bombers? AngryOldDem Nov 2015 #57
Only thing different would have been dead people on the ground with guns in holsters n/t Kennah Nov 2015 #59
In a crowded cahotic melee, an armed audience would have been shooting each other. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #62
We have 3X as many guns per capita and about 4X the murder rate BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #64
yes, because a small handgun restorefreedom Nov 2015 #65
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