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Jarqui

(10,926 posts)
37. I do not completely agree about these guys
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:59 PM
Dec 2015

I do agree they've got a conservative/GOP slant (slope might be better) or currently heavy bias. I supports Dems so on that level, I'm not too excited about what they're doing either.

Larry Klayman, who started them, is no longer with them and is an extremist.

Judicial Watch on Obama's birth certificate
:http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/weekly-updates/28-judicial-watch-investigates-obamas-mortgage-deal/

July 11, 2008

"Our legal team reviewed the argument and provided some useful analysis that I thought I should share with you. Under 8 U.S.C. 1401(a), anyone born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S., is a U.S. citizen at birth. In addition, under 8 U.S.C. 1405, anyone born in Hawaii after April 30, 1900 is a U.S. citizen at birth. (Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.) The argument questioning Obama’s legal eligibility is wrong and apparently confuses persons born inside the U.S. with persons born outside the U.S., one of whose parents is a U.S. citizen and the other is a non-U.S. citizen (8 U.S.C. 1401(g)).

I know there are concerns about whether the birth certificate distributed by the Obama campaign is truly an official copy. The Obama camp will have to put to rest that question on its own. In the meantime, I haven’t seen any reliable information yet to suggest Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii, so he’s a United States citizen and eligible to serve as our nation’s president.

Tom Fitton
President


Looks like you're the one doing the smearing of Judicial Watch (hate to defend them but the facts are the facts).

What Judicial Watch is doing is different than merely smearing with garbage accusations/labels, etc like your lame "Bernie is a child molester" example.

They're digging up evidence. Real indisputable hard copy or facts for everyone to see. That's much harder to dispute. And it's something the media can latch on to and run with.

In terms of the "mushrooming Benghazi scandal", it did mushroom. It started with Benghazi. Then it morphed into Clinton's email server trying to find the Benghazi emails when they started doing FOIAs for her emails. Now that has all kinds of folks looking at all kinds of things. I wrote about some of them here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251858165#post12
and here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=894929
I've been hearing this email thing is "nothing" for quite some time

The House originally requested these emails more than a year ago
"nothing" has the GOP controlled Senate Judiciary Committee still looking into it
"nothing" has the GOP controlled House still looking over their shoulder
"nothing" has the FBI still looking into it
"nothing" still has a third of 55,000 pages of Clinton's emails to go through and publish in the next couple of months
"nothing" still has the judgement of the AP FOIA request of the State Department to be satisfied over the next four plus months to provide additional information beyond the 55,000 pages of emails
"nothing" has spread to "mysteriously" missing emails belonging to Clinton's IT guy
"nothing" has Clinton's IT guy lawyering up and pleading the 5th
"nothing" has the Senate Judiciary Committee evaluating immunity for Clinton's IT guy
"nothing" has spread to them looking at the involvement of Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills and at least 9 others
"nothing" has already fed the GOP more Clinton lies to be used against her in the general election
http://nypost.com/2015/09/30/hillarys-e-mail-lies-seven-months-and-counting/
http://nypost.com/2015/08/16/hillary-clintons-5-e-mail-lies/

Can't say I feel comfortable describing the above as "nothing" for a candidate for President.

"nothing" has developed a life of it's own with no end in sight, has spread and could be a real cancer on her candidacy.


Forgot Inspector General on the above list as someone pointed out.

Since then, we have them looking at the emails for
- Hillary helping her son-in-law while Secretary of State
- arms deals for Clinton Foundation/campaign donors
- mining deals for the Canadian wing of the Clinton Foundation
- at least two emails recently confirmed as "top secret" on her server at home
etc

All of those started with or got fueled in some way by the little Benghazi investigation. It's like a cancerous tumor, mushrooming, growing tentacles. And it's a lot worse than the verbal smears because it starts with hard copy emails sent or received by Hillary. And here we are more than a couple of years past the start of Benghazi, less than 11 months away from the election and this mess is branching out and still going strong.

As Democrats, that's not very good news for the front runner or us. Hillary carries significant risk that folks like this are going to bury her with this stuff.

It's hard to trust the candidate to tell us how vulnerable she is because she's been a chronic liar much of her career.

Judicial Watch, the Kochs, the GOP and the media are going chow down on Hillary. They're going to do it whether we like it or not and they've got volumes of material to do it with.


Bernie, who I support, doesn't have this baggage. I think he's honest, has better truly progressive policies and because of the mess above, is a better bet. More than my slip is showing. You know where my heart is.

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People never tire of dreaming up Clinton upaloopa Dec 2015 #1
And posting them on DU Gman Dec 2015 #2
Attempting to censor and shut down discussion by accusing one of carrying water for the right notadmblnd Dec 2015 #3
After the primary that type of OP will not be upaloopa Dec 2015 #6
That may be, but it should be the admins decision, not yours. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #8
After the Primary LBN will be full of Clinton scandals. Drip Drip drip... bahrbearian Dec 2015 #10
That's been true for 40 years and Hillary upaloopa Dec 2015 #11
Why does she keep setting herself up for this, why does she keep making stupid "Mistakes" bahrbearian Dec 2015 #13
It wasn't a mistake. Darb Dec 2015 #14
If anyone is carrying Teabag Water it's Hillary, e-mail mistake,Iraq mistake, foundation mistake... bahrbearian Dec 2015 #15
What Iraq mistake? What foundation mistake? Darb Dec 2015 #17
And remember when she killed Vince Foster? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #21
R U talking to ME? Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #16
There was no meeting. It was turned over to others. End of story. I do wonder whether ANY OTHER Laser102 Dec 2015 #4
Quick, where's my bucket? Got to water down a new issue over here. libdem4life Dec 2015 #5
Here is some information on this firm ......................... turbinetree Dec 2015 #7
Any credible conflict of interest is fair game; but 1st in line look at Scalia, Cheney, etc Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #9
I don't think I'm quite clear on what actually happened here... hughee99 Dec 2015 #12
and proof that 2naSalit Dec 2015 #19
I'm not sure of that it has to be more than a meeting. While certainly that would make it worse, hughee99 Dec 2015 #23
How did I miss this? Should she win the primary things like this will be Autumn Dec 2015 #18
Yea, and conservative groups will leave Bernie alone. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #22
I hate to say it because I like the Clintons, but Bernie doesn't have the baggage that they have. Autumn Dec 2015 #24
It keeps coming. Today: Jarqui Dec 2015 #26
Judicial Watch? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #27
Larry Klayman sued his own mother Zorro Dec 2015 #31
I'm sure she deserved it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #36
Ah yes, let's shoot the messenger so we can all feel better about Hillary's candidacy Jarqui Dec 2015 #32
"No question they're often sympathetic to Republican causes" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #33
They're certainly not making choices for me specifically Jarqui Dec 2015 #34
Bullies do not dictate my choices ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #35
I do not completely agree about these guys Jarqui Dec 2015 #37
Democrats should let right wing groups pick their candidate? Democat Dec 2015 #29
Democrats should pick the person who best represents them. nt Autumn Dec 2015 #30
The listed Treasurer for The Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust leads to ... Historic NY Dec 2015 #20
Fuck The Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #25
Ho hum. Another day, another fake right-wing scandal. 6000eliot Dec 2015 #28
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