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pampango

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27. I came across an article on Swedish feminists balancing combatting sexism and racism
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Swedish Feminists Thread Needle Between Sexism and Racism in Migrant Controversy
A scandal over alleged sexual assaults by migrants puts Sweden—renowned for its gender equality and its liberality—in a difficult place

Though the facts of what actually happened at the festival remain unclear, the controversy has raised questions in Sweden about whether the Scandinavian country’s liberal political values had stifled a more honest discussion about how to integrate migrants from the Islamic world who might not share those values—even as the response of right-wingers fed accusations of racism.

It is not the first time that Sweden has had to deal with the uncomfortable intersection of racism and sexual assault against women. After sexual assault allegations were made against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in Sweden in 2012, the country faced scrutiny over statistics that suggested it had one of the highest rape rates in the world. Right-wing organizations, such as the Gastestone Institute, have used this data as an indication of risk migrants pose to women. But Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention cautions against comparing crime data across countries, and attributes Sweden’s statistics to high rates of reporting rape, and a broadening of the definition of rape in 2005.

The attention on these particular assaults has put many Swedish feminists in an uncomfortable place. They don’t want to play down the very real threat of sexual violence that all men potentially pose, but they don’t want that threat used as a political weapons against refugees. “It is very dangerous to racialize sexual harassment,” says Tiina Rosenberg, a founding member of Sweden’s feminist party, the Feminist Initiative, and a gender scholar and professor at Stockholm University.

Other Swedish feminists agreed, saying that, while it may be good that it the national refugee crisis brought attention to the violence all women face, it is wrong to describe the problem as specific to refugees. “This kind of harassment and violence has been going on for a long time in every country,” says Gudrun Schyman, a Swedish politician and spokeswoman for the Feminist Initiative, “What is common is men.”

http://time.com/4182186/sweden-feminists-sexual-assault-refugees/
That's awful! redwitch Jan 2016 #1
I think that train has left the station in Europe. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #3
This is great. coyote Jan 2016 #2
What, they will be living in the auditorium? FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #4
Yes coyote Jan 2016 #8
Translated online to this, for those of us who don't read German uppityperson Jan 2016 #12
How would you translate "Belegung der Sporthalle" in this instance? Is the following acceptable? xocet Jan 2016 #24
I would not say gymnasium because it's not. coyote Jan 2016 #42
It's a false friend. Igel Jan 2016 #60
Oh I know... coyote Jan 2016 #63
Thank you for your commentary on this topic. n/t xocet Jan 2016 #72
Thank you for your comments regarding my question. n/t xocet Jan 2016 #71
People could get too emotional to think critically and begin using logical fallacies LanternWaste Jan 2016 #7
I don't give a toss what you think coyote Jan 2016 #9
Simply answering your question without resorting to your hysterics... LanternWaste Jan 2016 #25
I am sure the family get the red out Jan 2016 #78
You don't take 20-30 year old male from anywhere and place them in the school LisaL Jan 2016 #48
There's a reason why the Obama Administration (and Britain) branford Jan 2016 #53
Nor does anyone else Aerows Jan 2016 #80
I can translate coyote Jan 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jan 2016 #10
Ah, you are in Germany? Good luck, I hope it works out, that there are resources available uppityperson Jan 2016 #11
Engage with them philosslayer Jan 2016 #32
Coyote is under no obligation to open his home or life to strangers branford Jan 2016 #40
Treat people like animals.... and they act like animals. philosslayer Jan 2016 #43
If Merkel and other liberal European leaders do not commit to policies branford Jan 2016 #50
That is what you call a "suggestion?" Aerows Jan 2016 #82
philosslayer Aerows Jan 2016 #81
Have you thought about saying no? AngryAmish Jan 2016 #52
I don't get the impression that the parents can really say "no" branford Jan 2016 #54
Organise a strike of concerned parents. christx30 Jan 2016 #55
Then the parents could be thrown in jail exboyfil Jan 2016 #76
The first step is saying no. Protest. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #58
Of course, there is already a protest planned tonight among the parents at the Rathaus (townhall) coyote Jan 2016 #75
Horrible but the culprit is one teenage boy out of 160,000 asylum seekers who entered pampango Jan 2016 #5
Islamophobic Swedish cops are trying to exaggerate the problem FrodosPet Jan 2016 #6
Can you substantiate your assertion regarding "islamphobia" or do you just jump to conclusions? xocet Jan 2016 #14
According to the prevailing opinion, any criticism of refugees or their behavior equals Islamophobia FrodosPet Jan 2016 #18
So, sarcasm was your intention? I see. n/t xocet Jan 2016 #19
You merely pretend they exist. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #26
BS - many, many incidents 840high Jan 2016 #16
Sweden has been taking in refugees/immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa for many years. Akicita Jan 2016 #22
I came across an article on Swedish feminists balancing combatting sexism and racism pampango Jan 2016 #27
They are faux-feminists in my mind. Akicita Jan 2016 #31
I doubt they would agree. Simple answers are elusive when a liberal society tries to balance pampango Jan 2016 #34
Simple solutions should not be elusive when the rape rate skyrockets to 2nd in the world, Akicita Jan 2016 #36
Swedish feminists seem to care deeply about stopping rape. They just don't want to join with racists pampango Jan 2016 #45
If professed feminists are willing to tolerate ever increasing rates of sexual assault branford Jan 2016 #56
Thank you for putting it much better than me. Akicita Jan 2016 #59
"Feminism need not, and should not, yield to multiculturalism." Of course not. pampango Jan 2016 #62
It is now racist to try to keep women and girls from being raped? What a crock. Akicita Jan 2016 #57
I don't believe that is what Swedish feminists are saying. pampango Jan 2016 #61
I havn't heard anybody say all refugees are rapists just like I havn't heard Akicita Jan 2016 #64
Pretending that culture isn't relevant to the discussion is high folly, and geek tragedy Jan 2016 #33
That is true but liberals have pursued the messy business of multiculturalism for a long time. pampango Jan 2016 #35
the problem is that RW populists are strengthened when liberals ignore the messy aspects of geek tragedy Jan 2016 #39
Agreed. Letting these problems grow and grow while ignoring or downplaying them Akicita Jan 2016 #41
Multiculturalims is inherently 'messy' (IMHO) as opposed to the 'clean' RW populism pampango Jan 2016 #44
what is not being debated is the most important question--what is in the best interests geek tragedy Jan 2016 #49
Indeed. And I leave it up to the Swedish government (quite liberal) to decide what is in the best pampango Jan 2016 #51
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #73
So insulting to Swedish men Dems to Win Jan 2016 #68
i wish i was surprised. Any bets on the specifics of the killer? MariaThinks Jan 2016 #13
Youngster refugee stabbing someone to death? Maybe the refugee was from Palestine. Akicita Jan 2016 #20
too bad a 22 year old girl who cares about people was killed by the MariaThinks Jan 2016 #21
Very sad. Akicita Jan 2016 #23
I think you're jumping to conclusions and being unfair to the guy who stabbed her PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #65
I saw that too leftynyc Jan 2016 #30
A male. They should be stopped. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #29
She paid the ultimate price for her idealism Dems to Win Jan 2016 #17
I'll be comforted when we apply the same contentions and criticisms consistently to our own country LanternWaste Jan 2016 #28
We often trivialize rape here in the US? Akicita Jan 2016 #38
Europe is in a bad situation Marrah_G Jan 2016 #37
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. LisaL Jan 2016 #47
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #74
Unrec. hay rick Jan 2016 #46
Incidents like this need to be ignored and kept quiet. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #66
Media makes sure incidents like this "go viral." hay rick Jan 2016 #67
I believe both should be ignored and kept quiet. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #70
This woman's death is an christx30 Jan 2016 #69
Minimizing and cover-ups get the red out Jan 2016 #79
Alexandra Mezher, age 22 Quantess Jan 2016 #77
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