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pnwmom

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15. Blame President Obama then. She was doing her job.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

Oh, and while you're at it, you should blame Bernie Sanders, because he supported Obama. And he also supported the F-35 because of the jobs it would produce in Vermont.

And don't forget the other militaristic positions Bernie's taken. And, looking at violence from a different perspective, he got pretty dirty shaking hands with the NRA, and voting against the Brady bill and for the bill to overturn manufacturers' liability.

Gee, maybe he isn't Bernie-so-pure after all.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-troubling-history-supporting-us-military-violence-abroad

The presidential candidacy of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has excited many liberals throughout the country, but there's been very little analysis of his foreign policy positions. This past Sunday Sanders criticized Hillary Clinton for her support of the Iraq war, declaring, “On foreign policy, Hillary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq…Not only I voted against, I helped lead the effort against what I knew would be a disaster." Sanders assertion about Clinton is obviously true, but the difference between the two candidates on war is hardly substantial and his political closet is filled with as many skeletons. Notably he supported NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, a stance which caused one of his staffers to resign in protest.

In his resignation letter to Sanders, former staffer Jeremy Brecher explained the Clinton administartion's position at the time. "While it has refused to send ground forces into Kosovo, the U.S. has also opposed and continues to oppose all alternatives that would provide immediate protection for the people of Kosovo by putting non-or partially-NATO forces into Kosovo," wrote Brecher, "...The refusal of the U.S. to endorse such proposals strongly supports the hypothesis that the goal of U.S. policy is not to save the Kosovars from ongoing destruction."

Brecher's note to Sanders closes with a set of rhetorical questions, "Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support? Where does that limit lie? And when that limit has been reached, what action will you take? My answers led to my resignation."

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First, search in your own closets. longship Mar 2016 #1
To be fair, John Paul and Ratzo were both said to be closet cases. But not Francis. forest444 Mar 2016 #3
Yes. Much more needs to be done. longship Mar 2016 #4
Try reading his actual words. He's been excoriating pedophile priests and the bishops who pnwmom Mar 2016 #6
so how many did he report to the cops? nt msongs Mar 2016 #9
In a change from previous Popes, Francis has directed all the Bishops to report these cases pnwmom Mar 2016 #11
In other words, do the minimum required in order to protect the church from lawsuits Major Nikon Mar 2016 #12
A depiction of Catholic indifference to suffering: cprise Mar 2016 #10
arms dealers Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #2
Is this a lesson on a way to highjack a thread? longship Mar 2016 #5
when the Pope says don't deal arms Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #8
Horrors! As Secretary of State she facilitated Boeing selling its aircraft to an ally. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #7
the U.S. greymouse Mar 2016 #13
Blame President Obama then. She was doing her job. pnwmom Mar 2016 #15
there is a long disgusting U.S. history, far longer than Obama greymouse Mar 2016 #17
As to Iraq, Hillary's decision pnwmom Mar 2016 #19
Actually it has never been clear to me greymouse Mar 2016 #20
Ted Kennedy voted against it but he said he didn't blame the Dems who voted for it pnwmom Mar 2016 #21
Although I agree with the message....the messenger makes it seem disingenuous. Socal31 Mar 2016 #14
This is coming from a messenger who's doing his best to turn the organization around. pnwmom Mar 2016 #16
PHOTOS. proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #18
Thanks, proverbialwisdom! forest444 Mar 2016 #22
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