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forest444

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29. I'm just glad they have Michelle Bachelet there, not some Pinochet grease monkey like Piñera.

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:57 PM

Mar 2016

Argentina and Chile, as you may know, settled their own maritime dispute (over the Beagle Channel and islands) in 1984.

Argentine President Raúl Alfonsín even submitted the treaty to a public referendum - and despite a vitriolic right-wing campaign against it, it won with an astounding 82.6%!

The map posted by Xithras above reflects that treaty (notice the little rightward indentation underneath Cape Horn).

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UN expands Argentine sovereignty over maritime area [View all] forest444 Mar 2016 OP

It is a very large continental shelf. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #1

The folks at Google have really outdone themselves with Google Earth. forest444 Mar 2016 #4

I do think this is correct (pssst: for Uruguay too!). Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #12

That's the rub, isn't it. forest444 Mar 2016 #15

Ah. Fishing is a very immediate issue Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #17

Beautiful! forest444 Mar 2016 #23

Yes. Here, I have made very good friends from both countries, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #24

You're a true man (or lady) of the world. forest444 Mar 2016 #26

With you too, forest444. Man of the world in no way, except Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #38

The Falklands still have their 200 mile economic zone hack89 Mar 2016 #2

Well, it means the western half of said zone is now illegal per international laws of the sea. forest444 Mar 2016 #3

No, that is not what it says hack89 Mar 2016 #5

That's exactly what it says, whether you know it - and like it - or not. forest444 Mar 2016 #6

The proper thing would be to let the people of the Falklands decide hack89 Mar 2016 #7

On the sovereignty dispute perhaps - which this ruling does not impact at all. forest444 Mar 2016 #8

As regards Diego Garcia, I/we doubt British people, nor governments Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #14

That's a good point. forest444 Mar 2016 #21

. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #25

I did! forest444 Mar 2016 #28

Wasn't the population of Argentina mostly "implanted" from Spain? Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #34

During the French Revolutionary years Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #37

Nope. Everything from Argentina to Antarctica is now Argentina's, except for the 12 mile bubble. Xithras Mar 2016 #9

Excellent find. Thank you, Xithras. forest444 Mar 2016 #10

Well, I wouldn't go that far Xithras Mar 2016 #13

The part of the UN decision covering seafloor around South Georgia Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #36

Argentina has recognized a 160 mile exclusionary fishing zone around the Falklands hack89 Mar 2016 #11

Come to some agreement. Naturally. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #16

I don't know about that. Argentina may be more willing to negotiate now. Xithras Mar 2016 #18

I think the big deal for the Falklands is the fisheries hack89 Mar 2016 #19

You exaggerate, Xithras. There is no connection Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #20

Nope. I copied that map straight off the UN website, right out of the approved proposal. Xithras Mar 2016 #22

Ok. "Those claims are independent of the Argentine continental shelf." Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #27

I'm just glad they have Michelle Bachelet there, not some Pinochet grease monkey like Piñera. forest444 Mar 2016 #29

Yes and no. Xithras Mar 2016 #30

I'm guessing the msp comes from Argentins's submission, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #40

That's insane. That area is bigger than the entirety of Argentina itself. NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #35

Guardian: Falkland Islands lie in Argentinian waters, rules UN commission Judi Lynn Mar 2016 #31

Excellent update. Thank you, Judi. forest444 Mar 2016 #32

I think it all just depends on what christx30 Mar 2016 #33

No the British won't comply forest. Its a non-binding decision of the UN. Britain isn't going Bacchus4.0 Mar 2016 #44

Here is the UN CLCS press release: Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #39

So Macri and his minister appear to be exaggerating, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #41

US State Department cable in relation to Argentina's 2009 submission Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #42

So when does the invasion force land for Falklands War II? Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #43

Sometime during the middle of one of Cameron's wet dreams. forest444 Mar 2016 #46

Funny, given how much of a hard-on the Argie gov't has Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #47

Flag waving is key to all retail politics. forest444 Mar 2016 #48

UK Gov speaks: Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #45