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paleotn

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47. So what should we do about it, Tony?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

And that goes for all the rest of the Islamophobes on this thread. What's your solution? More wars? Nuke them from orbit...it's the only way to be sure? It's just that arm chair, shit head thinking that's gotten us into this mess in Syria. Lets stop with the same old, simplistic thinking that's at its root. It's pretty fucking obvious it doesn't work, that is unless perpetual warfare is your game. To stop broad brushing 1.6 BILLION people is a damn good start. Then maybe they will learn from us and won't feel they need to hold on to the old, 12th century thinking most of us in the West chucked long ago. That we are actually not the enemy their handlers say we are. Otherwise, we look just like self centered assholes they've been told we are, who just want to bomb them into submission and feed directly into the propaganda narrative they've been force fed all their lives.

"Sadly, there are plenty of DUers (not Freeper trolls) who believe this, too..." EX500rider Mar 2016 #1
The thing is, very few Muslims in the world are like that, and very very few in America. Zira Mar 2016 #5
+1 Absolutely. retrowire Mar 2016 #8
Except for one very large difference leftynyc Mar 2016 #67
We'll get there if Ted Cruz wins. retrowire Mar 2016 #70
No we wont leftynyc Mar 2016 #72
so Christian radicals don't exist here retrowire Mar 2016 #89
Don't shove words into my leftynyc Mar 2016 #92
no they werent treated like shit under islam at first retrowire Mar 2016 #96
How far back would you like to go? leftynyc Mar 2016 #97
no our laws are fine retrowire Mar 2016 #99
this makse absolutely no sense - a completely false parallel MariaThinks Mar 2016 #132
what the fuckk???? retrowire Mar 2016 #135
The ten commandments MariaThinks Mar 2016 #152
... I'm going to avoid giving you an entire history lesson retrowire Mar 2016 #155
in terms of history lessons. Christianity has been around at least 700 years before islam MariaThinks Mar 2016 #157
i said i wasnt giving you a history lesson soo... retrowire Mar 2016 #158
Good answer MariaThinks Mar 2016 #160
well stay in the real world today and acknowledge that gay people get killed in muslim majority MariaThinks Mar 2016 #131
Very few in America, yes. But millions around the world. pnwmom Mar 2016 #9
Polls of Muslim countries show a majority in some countries do support all those things. EX500rider Mar 2016 #10
free polls where said Muslims can freely state their conscious? paleotn Mar 2016 #41
So the polls are wrong and you are right? EX500rider Mar 2016 #44
And I'm sure all citizens in those countries had a say in implementing those laws. paleotn Mar 2016 #50
How about Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia? oberliner Mar 2016 #64
1st of all Thailand is a Buddhist country. Turborama Mar 2016 #76
No kidding oberliner Mar 2016 #105
What 77% of a 5.8% minority of the country want* is pretty insignificant Turborama Mar 2016 #107
But the thread seems to be about looking at the views of Muslims around the world oberliner Mar 2016 #119
+10000 Zira Mar 2016 #120
There's a majority of moderate Muslims? katsy Mar 2016 #81
Excellent fucking question GummyBearz Mar 2016 #93
Good for not holding your breath. Don't want katsy Mar 2016 #98
You said hollowdweller Mar 2016 #113
??? I said what now? That's just a link to a new story in Pakistan.. EX500rider Mar 2016 #115
Polls are not infallible. Turborama Mar 2016 #138
Especially when they contradict your world view i suppose, EX500rider Mar 2016 #145
It's just a fact. Turborama Mar 2016 #151
The poll results are certainly facts, yes. EX500rider Mar 2016 #153
You might want to actually travel the world a bit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #111
on this board too and they hide any threads that point out the truth. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #133
That's definitely not true oberliner Mar 2016 #63
25,000 people marched in Pakistan for Sharia Law. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #84
that's only in one city. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #130
Thank you! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #134
the 10 Commandments MariaThinks Mar 2016 #154
with the constant terrorist attacks, continued radicalization, sharia law (and the MariaThinks Mar 2016 #86
one thing i've learned is that if people don't feel the desire to explain and put MariaThinks Mar 2016 #129
The problem with this assertion is that anti-Islam bigots will use it as a shield. alp227 Mar 2016 #16
+10000 Zira Mar 2016 #22
"That's the problem with otherwise reasonable positions" GummyBearz Mar 2016 #27
I understand what you're saying LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #32
You can find these strains of thought in Igel Mar 2016 #40
You are exactly right. raging moderate Mar 2016 #77
To further emphasize your point .... kwassa Mar 2016 #114
"That's the problem with otherwise reasonable positions Angel Martin Mar 2016 #106
+10000000% GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #122
You're darn right there are some of us who think this TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #2
I can say the same about Donald Trump. Zira Mar 2016 #6
Boo hoo TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #11
You do realize a LARGE group of supporters want a race war and would like to kill all the minorities Zira Mar 2016 #14
You do realize that when liberals deny the problematic TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #18
I am not denying any problematic beliefs of Muslims. I'm just setting the record straight that it Zira Mar 2016 #19
"millions" is not "most". There are over a billion Muslims in the world. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #85
Yes, but he specifically said "millions", not most. smirkymonkey Mar 2016 #94
Maybe, maybe not. It's a valid question. Millions (let say 2 million) is less than 1/750. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #103
And, I have to put you on ignore now. Zira Mar 2016 #20
Thank you! I'm honored. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #21
Nor did that person admit what the teaparty and right wing really want in this country, which Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
Really? The teaparty wants death by stoning for switching religions? EX500rider Mar 2016 #45
Wrong, the tea party does not behead people Democat Mar 2016 #62
When did anyone on this thread accuse "all" Muslims? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #87
Na, I keep reading your posts and they are fine. Zira Mar 2016 #95
I agree that the radicals don't represent greater Islam. And not all radicals are jihadists. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #104
So? We all hate Donald Trump and think he's despicable. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #12
You can say it - that does 840high Mar 2016 #37
Thank you. 840high Mar 2016 #36
You're welcome. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #38
Amen to that leftynyc Mar 2016 #68
^^^^^^ T H I S katsy Mar 2016 #80
Politicians like Blair and Trump turn a blind eye to Christian fundatmentalism, however. cprise Mar 2016 #116
In which Christian country do women need escorts TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #124
Totally this ^^^^^^ katsy Mar 2016 #128
Ask the sponsors of regimes like Saudi Arabia cprise Mar 2016 #141
I don't give 2 shits what they do. katsy Mar 2016 #127
Or all Christians.... paleotn Mar 2016 #42
ALL Christians? FrodosPet Mar 2016 #46
sorry. thought it was obvious..... paleotn Mar 2016 #49
The Old Testament is considered history to Christians TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #125
Do you know what 'Conservapedia' is? cprise Mar 2016 #142
Christians don't take the bible literally. That is the difference. GummyBearz Mar 2016 #51
There are millions of bible literalists in the US metalbot Mar 2016 #66
There is one "country" I can think of that is a Christian nation GummyBearz Mar 2016 #79
But that is their whole emphisis. That The Bible is the literal word of God LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #112
You must be joking!!! From a Republican... cprise Mar 2016 #118
The difference is between religious values informing legislators and declaring an official religion karynnj Mar 2016 #102
It's difficult to argue with him on this. Calista241 Mar 2016 #3
Here's 25000+ at the tip of the spear MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #4
25k of extreme fundy Islamics. We have that many people going to trump rallies all over and cheering Zira Mar 2016 #13
There are roughly 183 million people in Pakistan.... paleotn Mar 2016 #43
You're right! Every Islamic Fundamentalist in Pakistan was at that demo, all 25K of them. MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #58
Any fundie or govt. who says that women cannot drive or go out in public pnwmom Mar 2016 #7
Many millions TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #15
+^that 840high Mar 2016 #39
for me womens Rights trumps religious tolerance Mary Mac Mar 2016 #55
I really love when I can agree with you. Excellent points. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #88
Lemme guess: The ones you haven't killed, Tony? Octafish Mar 2016 #17
My thoughts exactly. Turborama Mar 2016 #75
Rovian History Righting Octafish Mar 2016 #108
Have you seen that Blair and Panetta are teaming up on a commission suffragette Mar 2016 #136
That may be overshadowed by the long-delayed Chilcot Report into the Iraq War, Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #139
Good point, for the UK especially. Still looks like they are trying to influence US suffragette Mar 2016 #146
Chilcot's become an ugly running joke. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #147
I meant the release date for the Blair/Panetta report at time of Convention this summer suffragette Mar 2016 #148
Oh, I see! I'm sure it'll be a ripping yarn. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #150
Thanks for the links and info! suffragette Mar 2016 #156
You're welcome. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #159
Poodle Blair can go fuck himself jpak Mar 2016 #23
I totally agree with this, and it is also true of Android3.14 Mar 2016 #24
Nice alliteration! C Moon Mar 2016 #25
Fuck you Blair, you warmongering, racist POS. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #26
That sums it up quite nicely! Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #29
Speaking of crazy, Tony. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #30
It has been our dealing with SA and like minded regimes randr Mar 2016 #31
You're right. polly7 Mar 2016 #33
We also must admit that most of the freedoms randr Mar 2016 #34
With 1.5 billion Muslims in the world "many millions" could be less than 1% of the total. pampango Mar 2016 #35
So what should we do about it, Tony? paleotn Mar 2016 #47
I haven't seen any Islamophobes on this thread. Just a debate over numbers. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #90
There are absolutely millions... TipTok Mar 2016 #48
What's the solution? Trump-style immigration restrictions? nt alp227 Mar 2016 #53
Trump restrictions are idiotic because they are overly broad... TipTok Mar 2016 #54
"Western society" isn't the "modern world". Turborama Mar 2016 #109
How about 'civilized world'...? TipTok Mar 2016 #110
What exactly is your definition of "integrate" and "burden"? Turborama Mar 2016 #137
Integrate means... TipTok Mar 2016 #140
You're a fucking war criminal, Tony choie Mar 2016 #52
Well... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #56
I agree with the contention, but not with his solution. fbc Mar 2016 #57
There are a billion plus Muslims around the world. romanic Mar 2016 #59
A common enough assertion davidthegnome Mar 2016 #60
There are many countries where being gay is a death sentence Democat Mar 2016 #61
Its the internet access everyone has due to cellphones. extreme 'culture shock' for many people. Sunlei Mar 2016 #65
Says the war criminal. Darb Mar 2016 #69
Truth! Elmergantry Mar 2016 #71
So are a lot of other people treestar Mar 2016 #73
Typo in the headline... Turborama Mar 2016 #74
The lies about Muslims promulgated on here often make it seem indistinguishable to freeperville. Turborama Mar 2016 #78
Why don't you enlighten us. katsy Mar 2016 #100
Well then feel free to leftynyc Mar 2016 #143
The Mother Lode of Bad ideas. bdwker Mar 2016 #149
Many millions of conservatives and fascists are 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world'. pampango Mar 2016 #82
But they have modern tools and weapons cprise Mar 2016 #117
interesting statement. I wonder why he's saying it. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #83
i think tony blair is fundamentally incompatible with the modern world n/t PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #91
Who asked the "Poodle"? In the past, he has been a "mine of bad information". nt ladjf Mar 2016 #101
i think the problem here is differences in perception of "the modern world" 0rganism Mar 2016 #121
This conversation is impossible to have on DU in any realistic sense. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #123
Kind of hard to argue against the poodle on this one. Philly-Union-Man Mar 2016 #126
Tony has a point here. GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #144
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