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(10,345 posts)because the info is available... So I'll give you some factual bullet points to digest.
The bible and it's ten commandments aren't as cut and dry as you would think. History proves this because of the crusades, the Spanish inquisition, etc...
People have killed in the name of Christianity. Why? because there are passages in the bible that permit punishment by stoning to death and such. And the book of contradictions that it is, it tells us "thou shalt not judge" and yet, the majority of modern day Christianity believes it's their right to condemn people for not following the word all the time.
there was a pastor in new York who encouraged the stoning to death of homosexuals a year ago I believe.
I grew up baptist Christian, so I have an understanding of that. I won't claim to be a scholar on islam, but like Christianity, it condemns killing people as well with lines like, "Nor take life -- which Allah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]"
guess who decides whether or not the killing is a just cause? not Allah. people do, bad people. guess who decides if a crazy Christian radical shoots up a church? not God. again, its bad people.
so, the Quran has its lines that forbid killing, and then lines that allow it. Same with the bible. it ALWAYS comes down to whom and how its being interpreted.
Sure, for people like you and I "thou shalt not kill" and an easy to follow list of commandments makes sense. But a lot of people read further than that or "read between the lines"
just remember... Islam has been around just as long as Christianity... and yet the idea that its a religion of TERROR is relatively recent. were people fearing Islam back in WW1? No? well, it was around. it was around before that too.
most religions are normally fine and dandy until an ill hearted human gets their hands on it.