Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: De Blasio: Bernie’s Attacks on Hillary’s Climate Change Record Are ‘Flat-Out False’ [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)56. says you, and embarrassingly so
by all means Mr. Climate scientist, explain how HC escapes your rhetorical wrath
Yes, Obamaand Clinton, then his secretary of statewere instrumental to that deal, but it's hardly something Hillary should be proud of.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/10/hillary-clinton-climate-change-debate-copenhagen
and what are your credentials that separate you knowledge-wise on the subject from the commong rightwingnut flat earther?
Their differences, though, are substantial: Sanders climate plan is much more comprehensive than Clintons and will reduce greenhouse gas emissions at a faster rate. Hes forcefully linked climate change and terrorism. Hes staunchly opposed to continued fossil fuel exploration on public lands and has vowed to ban fracking outright, a stance Clinton doesnt share. His focus on ridding politics of corporate lobbyists is a swipe against Clinton, whose campaign has taken money from fossil fuel companies. On the flip side, unlike Clinton, Sanders wants to phase out nuclear energy, a position that many scientists and environmentalists increasingly dont share, given the need to transition toward a zero carbon economy as quickly as possible.
As for Clinton, though her presidential campaign was launched with a historic focus on climate, when she talks about climate change, it often feels like shes playing catch-up. In recent months, Clinton has shifted her position to be more hawkish on Arctic drilling, the Keystone pipeline and on restricting fossil fuel exploration on public lands, likely in response to pressure from Sanders and voters.
When Sanders won New Hampshire this week, he devoted a big chunk of his victory speech to climate change. When Clinton conceded, she didnt mention it once. Meanwhile, on the Republican side, the New Hampshire winner (Donald Trump) is a climate conspiracy theorist. People often ask me if I feel hopeless about climate. Only when it's not taken seriously.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/12/bernie_sanders_and_hillary_clinton_differ_on_climate_change.html
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
122 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
De Blasio: Bernie’s Attacks on Hillary’s Climate Change Record Are ‘Flat-Out False’ [View all]
onehandle
Apr 2016
OP
When part of your appeal is: a) "I won't go negative"; and b) "I tell the truth," an untrue neg. at
riversedge
Apr 2016
#79
If he has such low opinion of his colleagues, why soil himself by associating with their party?
beastie boy
Apr 2016
#94
I notice you have no anger over the clinton campaign's many, many lies agaisnt Sanders
Scootaloo
Apr 2016
#85
Exactly! Where was he when Clinton and her surrogates were actually lying and misrepresenting
Dustlawyer
Apr 2016
#35
I'm a supporter. Private meetings with lobbyists could be a conflict of interest.
seabeckind
Apr 2016
#8
Exactly as I said, he voted against the Brady Bill five times. It is a fact the NRA
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#111
Attacking the messenger is an old Rovian trick: Three Pinnochios for @BernieSanders Liar, Liar, Pant
riversedge
Apr 2016
#23
Thanks! The impact of 25 years of right wing propaganda has brainwashed a lot of people against HRC.
greatlaurel
Apr 2016
#107
Hard to pass stuff with republicans willing to throw a spanner in the works.
killbotfactory
Apr 2016
#30
As a scientist familiar and enthusiastic for the world's largest, by far, source of climate...
NNadir
Apr 2016
#93
He's right...but what's worse is that the Sanders plan for the climate is absurd, unworkable...
NNadir
Apr 2016
#36
As a scientist myself, I can say that if Sanders has consulted with scientists...
NNadir
Apr 2016
#91
Anyone casually accepting fracking, w no mention of Hillary's support for Keystone XL
riderinthestorm
Apr 2016
#114
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists
stupidicus
Apr 2016
#43
Now that we are suddenly talking about career totals rather than the subject of the thread...
beastie boy
Apr 2016
#58
He's the mayor of NYC, birthplace of ACT UP and other AIDS activism groups Hillary claims took no
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#45
as the bullshit continues to pile up i do not know if i could support hrc if the nominee
dembotoz
Apr 2016
#105