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In reply to the discussion: Cameron says Corbyn should resign [View all]Shebear
(29 posts)34. By this article, the same situ as here...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/15/britains-richest-1-percent-own-same-as-bottom-55-population
Talks about who has done well and who hasn't in England. When the vote was being tallied, you could see the regions around London and the SE going "Remain", and the north and western areas going "Leave".
But I was talking about what I actually heard and saw on BBC television. Very interesting town halls where the fault lines on the issue completely crossed traditional left/right boundaries. Even the immigrant community was divided - the Indian and Pakistanis were less enthusiastic about "Remain" than the EU immigrants... a lot of the "racial hostilities" were more "white on white" - of course most of the EU immigrants are Caucasian.
When reporters interviewed people in the smaller towns outside London, people pointed to a familiar theme here: loss of manufacturing jobs, with nothing to replace them. One couple pointed to a statue in the middle of a square that had been constructed with "EU money" - but noted the increased unemployment.
Almost everyone said they would respect the vote and not redo a referendum. Already markets have calmed down (predictably), and none of the other EU countries want to retaliate against a major trading partner, so it doesn't appear to be quite the apocalypse that the alarmists were predicting. Many on the "Remain" side conceded that they needed to be more mindful of those displaced by loss of manufacturing, and the sense of helplessness. All in all, a more polite, restrained response than you would expect over here.
Talks about who has done well and who hasn't in England. When the vote was being tallied, you could see the regions around London and the SE going "Remain", and the north and western areas going "Leave".
But I was talking about what I actually heard and saw on BBC television. Very interesting town halls where the fault lines on the issue completely crossed traditional left/right boundaries. Even the immigrant community was divided - the Indian and Pakistanis were less enthusiastic about "Remain" than the EU immigrants... a lot of the "racial hostilities" were more "white on white" - of course most of the EU immigrants are Caucasian.
When reporters interviewed people in the smaller towns outside London, people pointed to a familiar theme here: loss of manufacturing jobs, with nothing to replace them. One couple pointed to a statue in the middle of a square that had been constructed with "EU money" - but noted the increased unemployment.
Almost everyone said they would respect the vote and not redo a referendum. Already markets have calmed down (predictably), and none of the other EU countries want to retaliate against a major trading partner, so it doesn't appear to be quite the apocalypse that the alarmists were predicting. Many on the "Remain" side conceded that they needed to be more mindful of those displaced by loss of manufacturing, and the sense of helplessness. All in all, a more polite, restrained response than you would expect over here.
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OK, but this is the Black Knight in the Monty Python movie saying "call it a draw" (nt)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#26
Completely true but it's like hitting your head against a wall to get people to understand this!
Nihil
Jun 2016
#31
Second point not true: Labour's almost always had to win in the rest of the UK
Denzil_DC
Jun 2016
#10
the ideological differences between Scots and the English have never been more stark. nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#19
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, ...
Nihil
Jun 2016
#30
Unfortunately it appears that half the plane doesn't trust the co-pilot's skill either...
brooklynite
Jun 2016
#16
Correction: It appears that half of the flight attendants are having a hissy fit.
Nihil
Jun 2016
#35
That desperate need to drag someone else down to your level so as not to be alone there. nt
bemildred
Jun 2016
#21