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DAngelo136

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33. For those of you who find this tactic acceptable
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jul 2016

For those of you who say: "Well, it was an appropriate action against someone who endangered the lives of police and was not willing to surrender" then I would remind you of this incident:

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/14/us/police-drop-bomb-on-radicals-home-in-philadelphia.html?pagewanted=all

If you can justify the bombing of an individual, then you can also justify the bombing of many as well. And wouldn't that undercut your arguments against the bombing of people in Syria?

"You can't be wrong AND be strong." as my father would remind me as a youth. The same applies here.

Land drone. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #1
Exactly NWCorona Jul 2016 #4
Think of the dark humor SNL could script with this one N/T Kennah Jul 2016 #67
They used it to eliminate a mass murderer operating from cover, without endangering themselves LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #2
Like I said. This action will have dire unintended consequences NWCorona Jul 2016 #3
Nearly all actions do (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #8
Yup though I bet it will mainly be felt by assholes like this guy who feel cstanleytech Jul 2016 #39
Perfectly acceptable use. No danger of injuring civilians. Only guilty party affected 7962 Jul 2016 #5
Unintended consequences lastone Jul 2016 #6
Most reasonable people understand the difference between justifiable use of force and murder (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #10
and you are then ok lastone Jul 2016 #11
I agree with you NWCorona Jul 2016 #13
If somebody's shooting at you, you can shoot back in self defense. Igel Jul 2016 #46
While I hate to hear of any loss of life, I sadly have to agree that you're right Rhiannon12866 Jul 2016 #65
the police were in negotiations with him... brooklynite Jul 2016 #56
Moral, sane human beings will be outraged, you can believe it. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #48
Due Process mblock Jul 2016 #55
The comparison to Andrea Yates isn't really a valid one. christx30 Jul 2016 #57
Oh. Too bad the Dallas Police didn't have you there to go in and read the FSogol Jul 2016 #58
I assume you agree that TeddyR Jul 2016 #59
It was a hand grenade on a stick. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2016 #7
Everything goes better on a stick Kennah Jul 2016 #68
I consider this action 100% legitimate, lawful, and appropriate given the circumstances. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #9
So what happens next time there's a hostage situation and NWCorona Jul 2016 #14
There was no hostage in this situation. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #15
And I said next time. NWCorona Jul 2016 #16
Straman precisely describes your agument. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #19
So by your argument you can't discuss where future tech might lead NWCorona Jul 2016 #21
And once again, you create a strawman MohRokTah Jul 2016 #22
Lol ok NWCorona Jul 2016 #23
whats a little collateral damage in this day and age. olddad56 Jul 2016 #41
You demonstrate a lack of understanding of law enforcement procedures and desired outcomes. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #42
Setting aside all the argument TeddyR Jul 2016 #60
they could of blown this poor fool up lastone Jul 2016 #12
I wish they wouldn't go giving robots ideas . . . tclambert Jul 2016 #17
Well they say Skynet is just around the corner lol NWCorona Jul 2016 #18
Oh and on a side note NWCorona Jul 2016 #20
It was a desperate situation. Definitely worthy of discussion though. Ash_F Jul 2016 #24
I can agree with that statement NWCorona Jul 2016 #25
I don't really have much to add right now. Ash_F Jul 2016 #26
I'm just wondering if they could have used a CS canister or something. NWCorona Jul 2016 #27
That may have prompted him to charge out firing, since gas just makes you cough. Ash_F Jul 2016 #32
Wait him out daleo Jul 2016 #37
Or just blow his ass up TeddyR Jul 2016 #61
We will never be sure if he was acting alone, now daleo Jul 2016 #66
Unintended consequences Warpy Jul 2016 #28
Way past that. jayfish Jul 2016 #30
Or resorting to RF jammer or spoofers NWCorona Jul 2016 #31
Micah Johnson's mind had gone to pieces oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #29
For those of you who find this tactic acceptable DAngelo136 Jul 2016 #33
How would you handle it? christx30 Jul 2016 #38
That was a tremendous observation by your father. I'll remember it. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #49
I would also add DAngelo136 Jul 2016 #34
Most white mass murderers end up dead Kaleva Jul 2016 #45
I really don't like the idea of Killer Robots many a good man Jul 2016 #35
Oh, c'mon. Next thing you'll be worrying about the Fire Department starting fires. n/t Kennah Jul 2016 #69
All those who think this is an acceptable tactic sangfroid Jul 2016 #36
I've thought more about this since yesterday rockfordfile Jul 2016 #40
good point, but I think emotions were probbaly running pretty high at the time. olddad56 Jul 2016 #44
It would make more sense. It would make it easier to be sympathetic to their losses. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #50
I would have preferred the cops just sealed off the area, like air tight... olddad56 Jul 2016 #43
Powerful conversation going on over here. pallidin710 Jul 2016 #47
We capture wild animals with tranquilizer guns so... Kablooie Jul 2016 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #52
The ends justifies the means argument. NWCorona Jul 2016 #54
Jump ahead... NeoGreen Jul 2016 #53
I wonder how many of the "wait it out" crowd TeddyR Jul 2016 #62
Not sure. The perspective on which you view events definitely has an impact NWCorona Jul 2016 #63
They definitely should not have been letting them receive food, power and heat. Ash_F Jul 2016 #64
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