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In reply to the discussion: US announces withdrawal from TPP [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)67. Actually other stakeholders have seen it:
There have been meetings with consumer groups, trade associations, labor unions.Here is the full list: https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/blog/2014/February/a-note-on-stakeholder-consultation
Fact sheet on transparency: https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/fact-sheets/2015/january/fact-sheet-transparency-and-obama
Congress established a system of Advisory Committees to get input from affected industries. The Obama Administration has grown the size and membership of our trade advisory committees to add voices that were initially left out of the process. In doing so we have worked to ensure strong representation from:
Labor unions,
Environmental groups,
Faith organizations,
Public health and consumer advocates,
Consumer organizations,
Local and state officials,
Farmers, ranchers, small business, and many more diverse interests.
These advisors receive full and equal access to U.S. negotiating proposals and work with our negotiators in an interactive process that includes regular updates on the negotiations, the opportunity to review U.S. proposals before they are tabled, and the chance to provide meaningful input into negotiating proposals and decisions. Over the past year, USTR has been soliciting additional nominations for candidates to further represent labor and non-industry interests, as well as further representatives of agriculture, services, and other sectors of the economy. We welcome additional participants and are open to new ideas on how we can expand input.
We are always looking for new ways to engage the public and to seek views that will help inform and guide our trade policy, and enhancing transparency will remain a priority, consistent with the ability to deliver on our ultimate mission, which is to deliver agreements that achieve the maximum possible benefit for the American people. Thats our focus.
Labor unions,
Environmental groups,
Faith organizations,
Public health and consumer advocates,
Consumer organizations,
Local and state officials,
Farmers, ranchers, small business, and many more diverse interests.
These advisors receive full and equal access to U.S. negotiating proposals and work with our negotiators in an interactive process that includes regular updates on the negotiations, the opportunity to review U.S. proposals before they are tabled, and the chance to provide meaningful input into negotiating proposals and decisions. Over the past year, USTR has been soliciting additional nominations for candidates to further represent labor and non-industry interests, as well as further representatives of agriculture, services, and other sectors of the economy. We welcome additional participants and are open to new ideas on how we can expand input.
We are always looking for new ways to engage the public and to seek views that will help inform and guide our trade policy, and enhancing transparency will remain a priority, consistent with the ability to deliver on our ultimate mission, which is to deliver agreements that achieve the maximum possible benefit for the American people. Thats our focus.
"WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH CONGRESS, THE PEOPLES REPRESENTATIVES
The administration has worked closely with the peoples representatives in Congress as we pursue our ambitious trade agenda. This has included:
Providing access to the full TPP negotiating texts for any Member of Congress, including for Members to view at their convenience in the Capitol, accompanied by staff members with appropriate security clearance.
Holding nearly 1,700 Congressional briefings on TPP alone, and many more on T-TIP, TPA, AGOA and other initiatives.
Providing Members of Congress with plain English summaries of TPP chapters to assist Members in navigating the negotiating text.
Previewing U.S. proposals with Congressional committees before taking them to the negotiations.
Working with Congress to update them on the state of the negotiations and get feedback every step of the way."
It's pretty standard for negotiations to be secret, it doesn't mean evil bad stuff happened behind closed doors. What would have happened if this had reached Congress, is that all deliberations would have been made public and the President would have had to make the entire trade agreement public. This is a requirement of the TPA :https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33743.pdf
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Problem is protectionism can sometimes make things worse like it did after the
cstanleytech
Jan 2017
#20
I agree 100%. China will now dominate the largest consumer market of this century - Asia.
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#35
Agreed, and the shortsighted America will see higher prices and a loss of potential American jobs
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#58
agree. I feel for all the small asian pacific countries who loved the idea of their own free trade
Sunlei
Jan 2017
#73
I 100% agree I like Obama but I hated the TPP. I miss Obama already though :(. n/t.
ZM90
Jan 2017
#30
No, the problem is not that they need to go away as retailers employee alot of people the problem is
cstanleytech
Jan 2017
#22
The bigger problem to me is that most of their products are made in Third World countries where
jalan48
Jan 2017
#24
Yeah-those sweat shops are so much better than what they have been doing for centuries.
jalan48
Jan 2017
#55
Actually, in Mexico workers were forced off their farms and into manufacturing centers.
jalan48
Jan 2017
#59
Good. The guy is still a fascist, but getting out of TPP and renegotiating trade agreements
PatrickforO
Jan 2017
#21
That means Mexico can ask for renegotiation of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
roamer65
Jan 2017
#33
You are correct. This will be a two way street that will increase price and cost U.S. jobs.
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#37
Many on the left refused to acknowledge what you talk about here, and contributed
Squinch
Jan 2017
#80
"This reduces the wholesale price of Melania and Ivanka's cheap, tawdry crap by at least 30 percent"
jmowreader
Jan 2017
#44
ALL TPP countries love the extra billions in trade & China is happy to take USA Asian Pacific seat.
Sunlei
Jan 2017
#70
And middle America begins blaming Obama for the resulting inflation in 3..2..1...
Squinch
Jan 2017
#76