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markpkessinger

(8,935 posts)
33. Not really, it didn't
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 11:52 PM
Feb 2017

The primary product a baker produces and sells is baked goods, not the message that may (or may not) be used to adorn a cake. She didn't refuse to sell cake to the guy. She simply refused to put a particular message on it. Bakers have never, so far as I know, been under a requirement that they put any message at all on any cake they sell, let alone one they disapprove of, just because a customer wants it. I can imagine many things a baker might refuse to put on a cake, either because the baker strongly objected to the message, or because he didn't want his product, and hence his business, associated with a hateful message. This baker did not refuse to sell products to this guy, or even provide products for whatever event the guy had in mind. They simply refused to put a particular hateful message on their product. I'm pretty sure an anti-gay baker would be free to refuse to put the words, "To the happy couple - James and Joseph" on a cake (ridiculously petty though it would be to refuse to do so), so long as they didn't refuse to provide cake for a gay wedding

This guy obviously thought this was the inverse of those bakers, florists, etc., who have been 'forced' to 'participate' in or 'support' gay marriages. But the notion that such vendors, when selling their products or services, necessarily support, let alone participate in, gay marriages merely because they supply cake or flowers to a gay wedding is a red herring in any case. For these vendors regularly sell products to customers while having no bloody idea how,and in what context. that product will be used. These vendors no more 'participate' in gay weddings than a florist 'participates' in the adultery of some dude who orders flowers to be sent to his mistress.

Fortunately, the Court also saw right through the guy's attempt to create a definitive association between Christianity and the message he wanted on the cake. Anti-gay bigots, after all, come in all flavors of religion and of non belief. And even IF he could provide chapter and verse in the bible that contained the text exactly as the text of his cake message was worded, those parts of the Bible that are assumed (often wrongly, thanks to mistranslations of mistranslations over many centuries), none of them are exactly core teachings of Christianity.,.

But we shouldn't really be surprised by this coming from evangelical fundamentalists. These are the same folks who think they are being 'persecuted' merely for being denied a cultural hegemony and being asked to stand on the same footing as other faiths and of non-belief..

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Ha Ha Ha Beakybird Feb 2017 #1
K & R LOVE IT!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #2
Best part: Judge saw right through the fake christian. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #3
Better yet matt819 Feb 2017 #21
Great! mountain grammy Feb 2017 #4
Just some jackhole trying to scam a settlement Cirque du So-What Feb 2017 #5
That would be the 9th commandment angrychair Feb 2017 #6
The judge shoudl have asked him -- azureblue Feb 2017 #9
not to mention... HuskyOffset Feb 2017 #16
He should wear the hairshirt in court Cirque du So-What Feb 2017 #19
The GOP can't have its cake and eat it too. tenorly Feb 2017 #7
The Judge should require the bakery to make the cake benpollard Feb 2017 #8
That's a good idea yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #31
So now azureblue Feb 2017 #10
Business is business bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #11
But isnt there something illegal about quoting a price like that? 7962 Feb 2017 #12
Nope, its called the free market and if you dont want to pay what you are quoted cstanleytech Feb 2017 #14
Price differentials exist on many items bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #15
Exactly forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #23
I dont think you can quote different prices like that MichMan Feb 2017 #18
You're right, it should be that way bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #28
All they'd have to do is show that the price is much lower for non-LGBT people. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #22
They should refuse the decoration, but offer instead a blank cake at regular price. forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #24
*if* the business is set up as commission work. It's not. It's set up as a bakery w/ special orders Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #32
Isn't every cake with customization a commission? forgotmylogin Feb 2017 #35
Or they could give him a cake an option of a pack of candy letters he can spell his message with. haele Feb 2017 #34
Like charging different rent to different races. nt 7962 Feb 2017 #30
I hope they counter sued the SOB for damages. nt cstanleytech Feb 2017 #13
Or at least covered Court costs... Tikki Feb 2017 #17
Unsure if the RWNJ's are taking the cue from the likes of Trump's stupidity lambchopp59 Feb 2017 #20
Beautiful ck4829 Feb 2017 #25
That's Resistance! Hoyt Feb 2017 #26
Plaintiff should be charged with filing a frivolous lawsuit MrPurple Feb 2017 #27
be careful melm00se Feb 2017 #29
Not really, it didn't markpkessinger Feb 2017 #33
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