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sarisataka

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21. The NAFTA treaty allows for withdrawal
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:20 PM
Apr 2017
Article 2205: Withdrawal

A Party may withdraw from this Agreement six months after it provides written notice of withdrawal to the other Parties. If a Party withdraws, the Agreement shall remain in force for the remaining Parties.


The Constitution indicates how to ratify treaties but did not include language on how to withdraw from a treaty. Presidents have claimed they have the power to do it on their own naturally the Senate has always disagreed saying that they need to vote on it and thus far the Supreme Court has not ruled one way or another.

One point to consider is that treaties such as NAFTA are supported by a body of laws that has been passed by Congress. Even if the president was to "withdraw" from NAFTA, that would not affect any of these laws. The provisions of the treaty would still be enforced through law even though officially the treaty was no longer in effect.
Meh, bullshit. It's a tactic. God, I wish Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #1
No knew it would be so safeinOhio Apr 2017 #2
Interesting is it not? Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #3
Cry me a river. Screw them and the whore they rode in on. olegramps Apr 2017 #26
Agree,but, Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #28
NAFTA is a fucking treaty, it had to be ratified by Congress MrScorpio Apr 2017 #4
Does it matter? RhodeIslandOne Apr 2017 #5
Well, it is coming from the guy Lobo27 Apr 2017 #6
Well, he does still have 'Fast Track' in place. (Thanks Obama!) House of Roberts Apr 2017 #10
No he doesn't. That was only for TPP... not NAFTA or any other treaty. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #38
Fast Track lasts six years. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #39
That authorization was for Europe and Asia trade BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #40
Show me a link. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #42
Here BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #43
Best I can do with this iPhone. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #44
Yes for that part of the world. OP is about NAFTA BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #47
Last try. House of Roberts Apr 2017 #54
Yes - for TPP & those 12 countries involved with the negotiations BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #55
I would assume the withdrawal language doesn't mention ratification by the senate. Calista241 Apr 2017 #13
Trump is so desperate to have one jewel accomplishment for the first 100 days Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #18
All treaties contain provisions for termination. former9thward Apr 2017 #19
Thanks for the follow up MrScorpio Apr 2017 #20
Ugh. Delphinus Apr 2017 #36
The notice of withdrawal may start the process but may not end it. pampango Apr 2017 #41
The NAFTA treaty allows for withdrawal sarisataka Apr 2017 #21
The real question is "who is a 'Party'"? Stonepounder Apr 2017 #34
Bingo. roamer65 Apr 2017 #46
Nothing more than a signing ceremony if it happens JDC Apr 2017 #29
Most of what Donald of Orange says he is going to do treestar Apr 2017 #57
USA runs a surplus against Canada. A majority of states have Canada as the #1 trading partner. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #7
He's hoping to crash the economy in his first year so that he can blame Obama. briv1016 Apr 2017 #30
Trump insults the nicest nation in the world, attacks them with lumber tariffs, and now this. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #8
He is an asshole. No doubt. nycbos Apr 2017 #32
More trade flows across 1 bridge btwn Detroit & Windsor than all the trade with Japan. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #9
The Ambassador Bridge MrScorpio Apr 2017 #12
I have been there and seen that BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #48
f**k this country for voting in such an ignoramus still_one Apr 2017 #11
Mexican products often had high % US content JPZenger Apr 2017 #14
A lot of the far left / alt-left hate NAFTA, will they show up on this thread now? snooper2 Apr 2017 #15
They hate it because they lack economic knowledge just like Republicans. LonePirate Apr 2017 #27
Here I am Blackjackdavey Apr 2017 #35
Apparently, Congress can repeal treaties.. that is what I'm finding in my research. secondwind Apr 2017 #16
I'm convinced Trump is going to crash our economy. Oneironaut Apr 2017 #17
He is stuck with it without congressional approval... Historic NY Apr 2017 #22
He cannot EO away a TREATY -- moran obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #23
There goes any more googly-eyes from Ivanka to Justin. ;-) WinkyDink Apr 2017 #24
I wonder how American farmers and ranchers who sell their produce and stock in Canada and Mexico Lanius Apr 2017 #25
I find is ironic that so many people here are suddenly pro NAFTA. nycbos Apr 2017 #31
yeah me too, this place seemed to hate free trade agreements awhile back...lol EX500rider Apr 2017 #33
+1 NobodyHere Apr 2017 #37
Trump wants to replace it w/ bilateral 'free trade' deals. Labor rights and environmental standards pampango Apr 2017 #51
Just in: Trump is NOT going to withdraw from NAFTA for now. - CNN Eugene Apr 2017 #45
I expect it is high time for rengotiation BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #49
Well, there's only one thing to say about that development... MrScorpio Apr 2017 #50
That is a vehicle were he could perhaps negotiate treestar Apr 2017 #58
Trump's WH underpants Apr 2017 #52
obvious Mr Trump, the Republican party just gives you 'busy work'. a box of crayons & coloring book Sunlei Apr 2017 #53
So all he has to say it "it's been very very bad" treestar Apr 2017 #56
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