FBI investigating Jane Sanders for alleged bank fraud: report

[Ninsianna]

281. I'm sorry, but articles like this are current events reflecting on what's being said and what's

being reported. This insistence that these are primary related is something that seems to be reflective of the primary grudges of the beholder. The single purpose seems to be to sow division by making anything less than adulatory of Bernie into numerous screeds on "Bernie haters" etc. That's hyperreactive craziness from a group that seems to be all about the antagonism and perpetuating discord.

I've seen several posts in the GD that properly seem to belong in the Bernie Sanders subgroup, but which are posted in GD, for the purposes of inflaming the atmosphere and giving people a place to vent their antagonism. I've seen this sort of thing being done to attack anyone who dares to express an opinion about what Sanders has said, even when it's about Democrats and it's in the national news and being discussed by Democrats.

It's not about guilt or innocence, that's not up to us to decide, the important thing here is that it's yet another instance of someone whose personal actions seem to be running directly counter to what they were saying when they had a national spotlight, as such it makes it not something that's subgroup worthy.

The objective of the people who spend a lot of time posting passive aggressive attacks on these threads seem to be about sowing discord. This is a story with national interest. We as a group should be adult enough to discuss things without violating the expressed TOS, we make the best use of our time and focus when we pay attention to what's going on period. It's by being informed that we can withstand the divisive forces that seem to be designed to allow the people fucking up the country to continue to do so.

Again, if you didn't care so much, you wouldn't be posting on these threads, it's this reaction that's doing the work of sowing discord.

We really do need to get away with this cult of personality, but this whole abuse of families really needs to stop being a talking point, it's silly. I'm quite tired of hearing about it, we don't have dynasties in the US, and if the individual who is running or thinking of running has the track record, I don't really care what their family is about. But you don't get special protection when your misdeeds are being scrutinized, due to who you married, particularly when one of the charges is influence peddling.

I find that people who keep shouting these slogans and who cannot differentiate between the past and the present and who keep projecting their biases on everyone else are the ones who are doing the most damage. We as a party are doing a good job to move our agenda forward, but we are being hampered by these concerted attacks on our party and our actual core principles by those who seem to care more about dismantling the party than moving it forward. When we see this behavior, we should call it out, that's how we move forward and stymie the efforts of those forces whose goals are not ours and who seek to destroy us as a unified whole. That would go a lot farther to achieving these goals than attacking each other and creating unnecessary rifts for merely seeking to be and stay informed about what's going on in the world and the country and those who call out hypocrisy when they see it. That's something we should all be doing, wherever we see such behavior, and not allow the worship of specific individuals or their families get in the way, that's how we fix deliberately destructive behavior.