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Fantastic Anarchist

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13. This needs to happen! There's an MSNBC Commercial that shows Trump saying Australia's ...
Wed May 24, 2017, 02:21 PM
May 2017

... health care system is fantastic.

So, fucking the idiot even knows SPH is a great thing. Sanders needs to take this up as an issue while Trump is down. Now is the time to strike!!!

Trump might just ask for it from Republicans as a way to save his failing presidency! We should utilize this advantage to help the sick people of this country!

While this is all well and good, it means very little unless we win in 2018 still_one May 2017 #1
It's part of the path to winning in 2018. kristopher May 2017 #3
Yes, exacty! mountain grammy May 2017 #10
K & R ......for visibility..nt Wounded Bear May 2017 #2
They should have done this in 2009. KPN May 2017 #4
Agree. And I'd like to see a full post-mortem on why we didn't erronis May 2017 #8
Single payer was off the table from the very start. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #16
Yes, I remember. Max Baucus seemed to be sitting on it and shut down the inclusion erronis May 2017 #21
Yeah, I feel the same way when people say that Dems need to take women's health care off the table ehrnst May 2017 #35
Nancy Pelosi had a public option in the house bill, Senate did not, then Kennedy died MiddleClass May 2017 #69
Here's a good overview of why we didn't ehrnst May 2017 #25
Thanks - but I think this points out that the $$$d interests own the conversation. erronis May 2017 #28
That was never stated in the article, nor implied. ehrnst May 2017 #34
That's a bunch of hooey kristopher May 2017 #41
Now there's a reasoned, intellectual response.... ehrnst May 2017 #44
Yes, it is a well reasoned, intellectual response. kristopher May 2017 #45
Um.... That was the argument of the person in the quote using that "suppositional constructon." ehrnst May 2017 #49
You presented that suppositional argument as representing your view. kristopher May 2017 #51
I'm presenting information from a well-sourced article ehrnst May 2017 #61
More with the personal attacks? kristopher May 2017 #63
You haven't presented evidence that your criticism is supported by data ehrnst May 2017 #64
It isn't a "data" error - it's a reasoning (false claim) error. kristopher May 2017 #65
No, not at all. ehrnst May 2017 #66
Fully agreed! Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #14
Everybody should call their Rep and tell them to get behind this! Ligyron May 2017 #5
I know nothing.. Maxheader May 2017 #6
Do you know why it failed in Vermont? ehrnst May 2017 #26
Why did it fail in Vermont? Maxheader May 2017 #36
For several reasons. It's important to know what failed before you can determine what is "doable." ehrnst May 2017 #38
I've had almost Maxheader May 2017 #72
To clarify: Medicare doesn't cover routine eye exams for eyeglasses or contacts ehrnst May 2017 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author kristopher May 2017 #75
Agree with kristopher . . FairWinds May 2017 #7
Medications Scarsdale May 2017 #9
Please get on a Medicare Part D plan ASAP -- the penalty far outweighs the premium progree May 2017 #19
Medicare is not single payer, and never has been. ehrnst May 2017 #23
Fidelity figures a couple both turning 65 needs $245,000 not including long-term care progree May 2017 #30
This is a great example of issue advocacy and perseverance. MGKrebs May 2017 #11
Thank you. You don't throw "universal health care" in the trash because it's not single payer. (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #24
Isn't This A Concession That Republicans Are Right About ACA? TomCADem May 2017 #12
No, because this was the supposed compromise anyway. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #15
This needs to happen! There's an MSNBC Commercial that shows Trump saying Australia's ... Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #13
Australia is very different from the US is some basic ways ehrnst May 2017 #22
A Single-Payer System is insurance, not health care. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #27
Single payer is the mechanism by which health care coverage is paid for. ehrnst May 2017 #32
As Scarsdale points out, much of the problem with . . FairWinds May 2017 #17
where were those burnbaby May 2017 #18
We were right there, MiddleClass May 2017 #70
And now this is going to be used against as ammunition against any who ehrnst May 2017 #20
Well, we need to define what a multi-payer system is, then. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #29
So France has a combination of payers - like the US. But they organize it differently. ehrnst May 2017 #33
Well, as I understand it: Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #39
The thing is, words matter. "Single payer" is not exchangable with "Universal Health Care" ehrnst May 2017 #40
I have no idea why we're arguing. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #42
I'm looking at this very realistically. It's become dogma. ehrnst May 2017 #43
No you aren't. No it isn't. kristopher May 2017 #46
You sound just like an anti-vaxxer or someone who wants to defund Planned Parenthood ehrnst May 2017 #48
You're the one engaging in name calling. kristopher May 2017 #50
Un-Fucking-Believable. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #54
Absolutely-fucking-realistic-and-believable. ehrnst May 2017 #56
I said you sound just like an anti-vaxxer ehrnst May 2017 #57
No. You are the one being dogmatic. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #53
No, I didn't say that because he has a different opinion ehrnst May 2017 #55
Bingo! Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #52
You know, there is an "ignore" feature ehrnst May 2017 #58
I don't use ignore. That would be "dogmatic." Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #60
I call them as I see them. ehrnst May 2017 #62
"Single payer" *IS* exchangable with "Universal Health Care" kristopher May 2017 #47
In the way that "dog" is exchangeable with "mammal" ehrnst May 2017 #59
And you can run shouting that around until the cows come home... kristopher May 2017 #67
Just like some people are going to call pregnancy termination "murdering babies" ehrnst May 2017 #68
When can we expect the CBO numbers? MichMan May 2017 #31
The CBO crunches the numbers on legislation that has been approved by ehrnst May 2017 #37
Physicians for a National Health Program support single-payer national health insurance. kristopher May 2017 #71
I believe that they are very consciencious. When you have 20,000 health policy analysts ehrnst May 2017 #74
What is single payer? kristopher May 2017 #76
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