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BobTheSubgenius

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25. Being pardoned of a criminal conviction won't get you into the US.

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:15 PM

Sep 2017

It will, however, allow you to apply to DHS for a waiver. A pricey endeavour, and by NO means guaranteed.

Even said waiver is no guarantee; a border guard has a shocking amount of discretion and power. They can deny you entry if they don't like your face. My conversation with a border guard a couple of years ago:

"Where is it you'd like to go in the US?"

"I'm going down to Sea-Tac to pick up my wife."

"You mean that's where you'd LIKE to go."

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Chelsea Manning says she was denied entry to Canada [View all] Calista241 Sep 2017 OP

You can't have been convicted of any crime WhiteTara Sep 2017 #1

+1. Also...just how much money does Manning have, to vacation out of country?nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #2

Maybe she was betting on the exchange rate WhiteTara Sep 2017 #6

Just wondering, since she was in prison a while, and wasn't rich before. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #7

It's cheaper to drive to Niagara Falls than Las Vegas for me jberryhill Sep 2017 #16

I wouldn't know. I've never gone on a vacation. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #17

"Drove up... planning to vacation in Montreal and Vancouver" jberryhill Sep 2017 #19

It is? Good catch! nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #40

Amusingly, it is faster to drive through the US from Montreal to Vancouver jberryhill Sep 2017 #41

+1. Thx for the geography lesson! I should know this! nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #42

She has supporters, and she also probably is paid for speeches and appearances. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #23

Was she planning on getting paid to appear in Canada? jberryhill Sep 2017 #24

I have no idea. I was just responding to the question of how she has money to tblue37 Sep 2017 #26

I see. I was just curious how other people get money w/o a regular job. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #39

Even a DUI will keep you out. Yo_Mama Sep 2017 #43

If you've been convicted of a felony in the US, you will be denied entry to Canada jberryhill Sep 2017 #3

A friend on mine was denied entrance into Canada because of a 15 year old DWI FSogol Sep 2017 #4

Same with my brother in law Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #10

My brother had a dwi-about 10 years ago. He just left his license at home, and presented his riversedge Sep 2017 #18

I don't know the particulars. His was only a few years old. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #20

Mine was on a fishing trip and flew in to a small airport-where they went through customs. riversedge Sep 2017 #21

If you have a DUI Sgent Sep 2017 #28

Canada is seriously harsh on DUI/DWI...always have been. n/t susanna Sep 2017 #30

Yep. crim son Sep 2017 #33

I think it works the other way too. EllieBC Sep 2017 #11

Correct. However, in the felony case and the DUI case, you can apply for an Nay Sep 2017 #13

Yes. Did Manning apply for one? jberryhill Sep 2017 #14

Yes, that's the procedure I looked at for my relative. I looked at the denial letter Nay Sep 2017 #15

She wasn't pardoned Sgent Sep 2017 #29

Ah, gotcha. Nope, she ain't getting into Canada without an adjudication. Nay Sep 2017 #36

I'm taking a trip to the USA soon MrSmokeTooMuch Sep 2017 #32

If they Google your screen name, it is over Not Ruth Sep 2017 #54

Even if she's one of your heroes Pope George Ringo II Sep 2017 #5

Well, it's not personal. It's that way for everyone going there. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #8

Canadian Law is pretty clear on that rpannier Sep 2017 #9

And even if it werent a specific law... NYC Liberal Sep 2017 #12

+1000 rpannier Sep 2017 #22

Wait a sec.. Skippy33 Sep 2017 #34

Few, if any countries, melm00se Sep 2017 #35

No, not an inherent right. But that doesnt mean it isnt the RIGHT thing to do - it is. NYC Liberal Sep 2017 #37

I will tell you what no human has the "right" to do, inherently, morally nor should it be Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #38

I shouldn't have the right to prevent anyone from entering my property? Marengo Sep 2017 #44

In what world is a person allowed to own dirt, a part of earth? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #45

Answer my question with yes or no please. Marengo Sep 2017 #46

I asked you a simple question, what sense does it make for a rich Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #47

I'm not a "rich person", I own 1 home on a small lot. Should I not be allowed to prevent anyone... Marengo Sep 2017 #48

Has nothing to do with rich, I was taying to make a point. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #49

Who owns the space I occupy? Marengo Sep 2017 #50

You rent it, you dont own it. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #51

I don't legally own my property, to include the "earth", within it's boundaries? Marengo Sep 2017 #52

What? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #53

If it's the right thing to do Skippy33 Sep 2017 #55

Being pardoned of a criminal conviction won't get you into the US. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2017 #25

Manning wasn't pardoned...her sentence was commuted. brooklynite Sep 2017 #27

That's the law. Even if some think of her as a hero. She was convicted of espionage, fairly so. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #31