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5. Its probably better to make anti-rape points without rape jokes even sarcastically ...

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:22 PM

Dec 2017

I hope this thing can get sorted out, Sam Seder is great commentator and I really don't think he believes in any sense that rape is funny. He was right about those in the eighties and nineties who thought Polanski deserved a pass to the point of harassing the victim to where she just wanted the whole thing over and never have to talk about it ever again.

About a month ago another woman surfaced and made basically made the same claims. And apologists for Polanski tried to play it as "well in Europe such things are accepted." Drugging preteens and raping them is acceptable behavior in Europe? I really have to doubt it.

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MSNBC Reportedly Cutting Ties to Contributor Sam Seder Over Old Polanski Rape Joke [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 OP

MSNBC: "Hmmm.. Who to believe - Sebastian Gorka and Mike Cernovich... dchill Dec 2017 #1

Al Franken, Joy Reid and now Sam Seder. They're going after effective progressives. brush Dec 2017 #12

+++ Agree iluvtennis Dec 2017 #23

How is Sam Seder an "effective progressive"? brooklynite Dec 2017 #48

You can say the same about Joy Reid then. brush Dec 2017 #56

I dont disagree, but the OP is about Seder... brooklynite Dec 2017 #57

They are both effective in the sense that they stay on message. It still seems to me that some... brush Dec 2017 #58

Easy choice. But seems msnbc made the wrong choice IMHO riversedge Dec 2017 #42

oh ffs. mopinko Dec 2017 #2

Well, that was a TERRIBLE joke. But obviously a joke. And today, you're gonna pay for it. 7962 Dec 2017 #3

The joke was attacking *Polanski apologists* yodermon Dec 2017 #13

We're canceling your contract! RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #33

There was nothing wrong with the joke Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 #14

It was obviously not a joke at all. Mister Ed Dec 2017 #36

It wasn't really a joke. It was a biting condemnation of rape apologists. phleshdef Dec 2017 #54

Yes, but we've gotten to the point where there is no dividing line. 7962 Dec 2017 #62

This is horrible. MSNBC just gave into a lie. And they wonder why facts no longer matter. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #4

Its probably better to make anti-rape points without rape jokes even sarcastically ... marble falls Dec 2017 #5

A too typical crock deancr Dec 2017 #6

Why do right wing lies and false eqivlencies always win? Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #7

That seems like an overreaction to me. From 2009? A joke? Come on. Ridiculous. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #8

It certainly IS getting out of hand. And its gonna get worse. 7962 Dec 2017 #38

And heres some proof of it getting out of hand. 7962 Dec 2017 #39

Okay, now. They better not go after SNL, or there'll be hell to pay. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #45

It's a weak sketch but FFS is satire forbidden now too? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #55

Thats where we're headed. if not there already. 7962 Dec 2017 #61

I don't even see it as a joke, but as a furious, sarcastic lashing out at rape apologists. n/t femmedem Dec 2017 #40

MSNBC bdamomma Dec 2017 #9

You fucked up MSNBC. Big time. Huge. TeamPooka Dec 2017 #10

Well, it's important for MSNBC to move away from actual journalism when it can. byronius Dec 2017 #11

You nailed it byronius. A wolf in sheep's clothing still_one Dec 2017 #19

I think Chris Hayes is awesome. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #25

I agree absolutely. Forgot his name. byronius Dec 2017 #29

Two words. Bill Maher. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #15

Are we sure that Seder dide not do this himself to get out of his contract early? McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #16

No, the joke was from 2009 Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 #20

or maybe Skittles Dec 2017 #27

His contract was up in February n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2017 #30

oops, the baby just went out the window. pansypoo53219 Dec 2017 #17

+1 byronius Dec 2017 #21

After MSNBS was one of the first networks to characterize Comey's letter to the republicans in still_one Dec 2017 #18

This is shocking and totally unfair. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #22

It is frightening. LisaM Dec 2017 #26

But they'd have to be so dense to mistake such a clearly anti-Polinsky.. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #31

If anything-it is the pattern of the person-like @MooreSenate--who had a pattern of trying to riversedge Dec 2017 #43

It is fucking ridiculous. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #60

The entire U.S. mass media is contolled by billionaires Dr_Pretorius Dec 2017 #24

Good thing sam does not need them mentalslavery Dec 2017 #28

Yeah, he talked about this last week. rusty quoin Dec 2017 #35

One thing MSNBC did mentalslavery Dec 2017 #47

And we must all admit, as Bill Clinton did to Randi Rhodes at a party -- byronius Dec 2017 #49

The right loves to use Polanski as a talisman for "liberal hypocrisy" on rape RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #32

This is nuts. OnDoutside Dec 2017 #34

Every now and then I think I might wanna get msnbc.then they do something like this dembotoz Dec 2017 #37

They also have Hugh Hewitt as a morning host oberliner Dec 2017 #41

MSNBC management can alway be counted on to cave in Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #44

Lesson learned? don't tweet, email, post on FB, etc. anything you wouldn't want to be used by Nitram Dec 2017 #46

Hes getting play on huffpost mentalslavery Dec 2017 #50

I have to admit I overreacted about this on another thread..i CatMor Dec 2017 #51

We are moving further towards a dictatorship when media outlets like MSNBC are so easy to manipulate Doodley Dec 2017 #52

I disagree with MSNBC's actions here Gothmog Dec 2017 #53

This is complete B.S. demmiblue Dec 2017 #59