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Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
97. agreed
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:42 PM
Aug 2012

I agree with everything you say and I don't believe that posing with dead people like they are dear is at all acceptable.

However, to be judged by a group of people who have no idea what war is like and what happens to a person's mind when they are directly involved is not fair to our Soldiers.

As Soldiers, we are/were expected to fight a war and kill when necessary. Everyon grows up with what I would say is a natural aversion to killing people. Once you find yourself in a situation when you've killed a person, it really throws everything into a "tizzie". I shot and killed people and was rewarded for it! What kind of mixed signal does that throw to a person? When it is alright to kill someone, posing with them like a deer or urinating on them becomes easy to do.

I completely understand where they are coming from.

You don't shoot and kill people that you like. A lot of the conditioning (both intentional and unintentional) makes you not want to like the people that you are fighting against. The second that you revere your enemy as a person like you, you'll find it hard to deal with combat - which is exactly what happened to me.

War sucks and coming home and trying to be normal afterwards is almost impossible for some of us, but that is the topic for another thread. These are just more reasons why war should be avoided at all costs.

more rwnuts with guns claiming to be "militia" - there's a pattern wordpix Aug 2012 #1
and get Linbaugh OFF the military radio stations elehhhhna Aug 2012 #93
The right wing had infiltrated the armed services in a huge way. alarimer Aug 2012 #99
Well, Rush and especially Beck are encouraging it... Scary to be POTUS. freshwest Aug 2012 #105
The army turned my cousin from an Obama supporter into a Bither nutcase. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #125
If this guy's name was Mohamed, you'd have heard of this before. leveymg Aug 2012 #2
Can be either oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #66
"Anarchist" usually designates someone on the Left. "Anti-government" is the MSM term for RW types. leveymg Aug 2012 #79
At least you and I oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #82
Anarchism has an intellectual tradition that goes back through Jefferson to leveymg Aug 2012 #85
Agreed oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #91
lots of Ron Paul "anarchists" came out during Occupy nashville_brook Aug 2012 #98
As soon as OWS got big press, Ron Paul's #1 fan, Alex Jones rounded up the troops to join Occupy... freshwest Aug 2012 #112
The dirty tricks went a LOT deeper than that, my friend. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #130
Found this about one of them... radical noodle Aug 2012 #72
Good catch! Did you see the comment at the top of the thread? leveymg Aug 2012 #81
This should have widespread coverage. radical noodle Aug 2012 #95
Wait ..aren't these the same people the justice Dept warned about... Historic NY Aug 2012 #3
Yup! And HOWLS from the RW forced Napolitano to do a "walk back". annabanana Aug 2012 #30
Amy Goodman recently interviewed the RW extremism report author (who's a Republican) alp227 Aug 2012 #77
yep, and the media cried "anti-conservative chicken little alarmism" Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #53
Yep, same thing, but R's think it's wrong to ever think any of them are dangerous. They're RKP5637 Aug 2012 #59
I suggest you edit that title, and take out the word "share"... MicaelS Aug 2012 #4
sorry about that...fixed. maddezmom Aug 2012 #5
So, who still thinks Doctor_J Aug 2012 #6
Straight Democratic ticket will solve everything. OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #32
I wonder the same thing... KansDem Aug 2012 #54
I wonder too just where we're going to be in a few more years. I really wonder where RKP5637 Aug 2012 #64
What does that even mean? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #128
It is way past time to get PigBoy off of AFN Doctor_J Aug 2012 #7
Not only that, but... rwsanders Aug 2012 #11
Get Rush off the AFN and take some other corrective steps as well. yardwork Aug 2012 #13
White Supremecist Groups Recuiting the Miltary Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #18
Yeah, and when our "heros" come home we'll put them in law enforcement. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #43
Law enforcement & Private Security corps, including Private Intelligence, e.g. Xe. nt patrice Aug 2012 #47
I'll be sure to keep an eye out for "goose steppers" Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #74
Something goes on over there. I have a family member who is pretty high up in the Marines - he jillan Aug 2012 #15
Nearly unavoidable perception that they were sold-out, because they were, by War-Profiteers, patrice Aug 2012 #44
But there were no plots to kill Smirk Doctor_J Aug 2012 #60
Something similar happened to me, but I went the other way Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #45
Thank you for your service to our country. yardwork Aug 2012 #51
welcome home frylock Aug 2012 #61
Thanks Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #63
I salute you! Joey Liberal Aug 2012 #84
Welcome to DU, soldier! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #126
I agree with you Brainwashing lovuian Aug 2012 #46
Interesting perspective Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #58
you understand ...what they were promoting is Blood Lust lovuian Aug 2012 #90
Jail. Life. Marion. aquart Aug 2012 #8
Hopefully...Dishonorable discharges for this bunch, for starters. If someone LeftinOH Aug 2012 #9
Command And Control Problems Within The Military DallasNE Aug 2012 #16
ISn't this high treason? robinlynne Aug 2012 #38
OMG-- this is horrifying ailsagirl Aug 2012 #42
Yes, it is obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #92
Rec'd for exposure. Blue State Bandit Aug 2012 #10
Shows you how genuine their friendship is, as it didn't prevent them from killing Roark Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #12
What's that tattoo on the right arm of the guy in front? yardwork Aug 2012 #14
I can't enlarge it well enough to tell. Sorry. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #19
looks like barbed wire, it says Viva_La_Revolution Aug 2012 #20
All the "posers" have em. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #27
JAIL is all they deserve. Amonester Aug 2012 #24
Please note, All: An important! point! about fascism here. patrice Aug 2012 #26
Friendship? It sounds like the guy may have murdered his own pregnant wife. Xithras Aug 2012 #55
Interesting differentiation in the Headlines between UK and US .... Myrina Aug 2012 #17
nice catch. nt Viva_La_Revolution Aug 2012 #21
"U.S. Military Battling White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis In Its Own Ranks" chowder66 Aug 2012 #22
K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #23
wait, where's the left wing terrorism? librechik Aug 2012 #25
"Both sides do it!" KansDem Aug 2012 #56
Treason, sedition Berlin Expat Aug 2012 #28
++1,000 nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #36
Smells like Smedley Butler Insurrection flashsmith99 Aug 2012 #29
It wasn't his insurrection, he prevented it... BadtotheboneBob Aug 2012 #69
Should have call it the Prescott Bush insurrection flashsmith99 Aug 2012 #73
In-law Herbert Walker was closer to the plot through Remington Arms and Morgan Bank connection. leveymg Aug 2012 #83
I consider the * family to be one of the most damaging problems in this country newspeak Aug 2012 #135
Unfortunately, the coup long predated Li'l Boot's installation by SCOTUS leveymg Aug 2012 #136
The Air Force, and ICE have rogue elements annabanana Aug 2012 #31
Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe & PTI... MinM Aug 2012 #127
I guess JEB Aug 2012 #33
they do get their share n/t shanti Aug 2012 #49
More from the Fort Stewart Patch Julian Englis Aug 2012 #34
I don't like how they keep throwing around the term "anarchist" 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #35
I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to bring it up. Thank you. yardwork Aug 2012 #50
You are right I fear... Karmasue Aug 2012 #65
Another kind of "blowback" 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #75
Lots of Texas judges are wackos! Karmasue Aug 2012 #119
I've always wanted to visit Austin 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #121
LOL...Not sure where Portlandia is Karmasue Aug 2012 #122
You guessed it. Portland OR. "Is where young people go to retire". 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #123
All shitheads are now called anarchists. Didn't you get the memo? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #103
I share your concern. Show me the tatoos & btw how 'bout those tax returns? ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #113
maddezmom Diclotican Aug 2012 #37
Too many chores, so little time. formercia Aug 2012 #39
Maybe this will help kill the notion of anyone in the military automatically being considered a hero RussBLib Aug 2012 #40
"what if im not the hero what if im the bad guy" (sic) OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #48
Luckily, they were trained by Hollywood. caseymoz Aug 2012 #41
More right wing terrorism. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #52
"Mr. Clinton better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard." lebkuchen Aug 2012 #57
North Carolina, actually. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #131
Rumor had it Helms spent a lot of time in Myrtle Beach with a paramour lebkuchen Sep 2012 #137
They're in the military, aren't they supposed to get death by firing squad for this? nt bananas Aug 2012 #62
K&R n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #67
Let's not forget Bush lowered requirements to serve in the military... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #68
I'm not so sure about that... Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #71
It's been ing with said a President inherits the army from the prior one. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #87
agreed Victor_c3 Aug 2012 #97
During Bush... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #104
A President also inherits the DoJ from the prior one. OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #109
"he could have replaced them when he took office, as Clinton did. Yet he chose not to.I wonder why." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #110
The Bush DoJ OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #115
Wanna hear something funny? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #120
Can we dispense with the class-based insults here? eridani Aug 2012 #80
This may shock you but I don't care if I offend rednecks. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #88
So low income whites are now the overclass? eridani Aug 2012 #108
Rednecks have no problem affording guns. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #111
Are they still operating under the "looser than loose" recruitment guidelines started under Bush? PSPS Aug 2012 #70
Recruiting and retention standards are up... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #76
Had I not known Michael Roark was 19 I would've asked, "why the F is he dating a 17 year old?" alp227 Aug 2012 #78
This is what the Tea Baggers have been hoping for Joey Liberal Aug 2012 #86
Do these guys think Politicalboi Aug 2012 #89
"stockpiling assault weapons" - Another group of "law abiding gun owners," right up until apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #94
The leader of this plot was a 2008 RNC page Electric Monk Aug 2012 #96
Man, am I glad the 2nd Amendment gives these guys the right to keep and bear arms... primavera Aug 2012 #100
Question; Did they develop these plans while listening to Rush Limbagh on Armed Forces radio? liberal N proud Aug 2012 #101
Now I have an idea who is turning the US into a third world country AlphaCentauri Aug 2012 #102
Kicked for so that we can at least have one thread about this... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #106
This is real and actual terrorism that poses a real and actual threat. The Stranger Aug 2012 #107
We're fighing them here so we don't have to fight them over there... Prometheus Bound Aug 2012 #114
That is a special kind of crazy. Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #116
These FOUR guys were going to take over the government? tclambert Aug 2012 #117
are they being charged with TREASON? That's exactly what it is. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #118
Treason. Put these fuckers to a firing squad. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #124
It's things like that is more reason to have a progressive millitia. Great Caesars Ghost Aug 2012 #129
Yep. Or at least a working class militia......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2012 #132
That too Great Caesars Ghost Aug 2012 #133
Wow! K & R Quantess Aug 2012 #134
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