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In reply to the discussion: Father of Guatemalan girl who died in US custody has 'no complaints' about her treatment, consul say [View all]SunSeeker
(51,299 posts)4. Inaccurate headline. The father wants an investigation & her cause of death determined.
Last edited Sun Dec 16, 2018, 11:24 AM - Edit history (1)
As stated in the article itself:
Caal did not speak to the media Saturday, but in a statement issued by his lawyers, he said he was "grateful for the many first responders that tried to save young Jakelin's life in New Mexico and Texas."
Still, his lawyers called for an investigation that "will assess this incident within nationally recognized standards for the arrest and custody of children. The family intends to assist in such an investigation into the cause and circumstances of Jakelin's death."
The lawyers, Enrique Moreno and Elena Esparza, also criticized border authorities for asking Caal to sign a form written in English about the state of his daughter's health not long after they arrived at the border, when she showed no problems.
But he speaks no English, the lawyers said. He speaks Q'eqchi', a Mayan language used in Guatemala, and Spanish is his second language.
"It is unacceptable for any government agency to have persons in custody sign documents in a language that they clearly do not understand," the statement said.
Still, his lawyers called for an investigation that "will assess this incident within nationally recognized standards for the arrest and custody of children. The family intends to assist in such an investigation into the cause and circumstances of Jakelin's death."
The lawyers, Enrique Moreno and Elena Esparza, also criticized border authorities for asking Caal to sign a form written in English about the state of his daughter's health not long after they arrived at the border, when she showed no problems.
But he speaks no English, the lawyers said. He speaks Q'eqchi', a Mayan language used in Guatemala, and Spanish is his second language.
"It is unacceptable for any government agency to have persons in custody sign documents in a language that they clearly do not understand," the statement said.
So obviously, contrary to the consul's statement, the father does have complaints about the way CBP treated them and wants an investigation. The consul may have misunderstood the father, since the father speaks an indigenous language.
No one is disputing the girl had a 105.7 fever.
CBP should have checked her health when they took her into custody. Sure seems, based on the facts, there was a delay in calling EMTs. The EMTs were not called when the father alerted CBP that his daughter was vomiting, before they loaded them on the bus.
From the article:
Nearly eight hours after they were detained, Jakelin and her father were loaded onto a bus bound for the Border Patrol station in Lordsburg, New Mexico, the CBP said.
Before leaving, her father told agents his daughter was sick and vomiting, the CBP said. An agent notified the station that the child would need emergency medical care.
Before leaving, her father told agents his daughter was sick and vomiting, the CBP said. An agent notified the station that the child would need emergency medical care.
There is no indication CBP actually checked her temperature nor offered her food or water upon apprehension. Instead, CBP made the father sign a statement that she was in good health, a statement written in a language he could not understand.
So please explain, Jedi Guy, why you feel compelled to defend the CBP and mock the rest of us who are raising legitimate criticisms by accusing us of playing the "blame game."
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Father of Guatemalan girl who died in US custody has 'no complaints' about her treatment, consul say [View all]
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
OP
Welcome to DU. Actually there is no evidence of anything, just facts and a child's remains ...
marble falls
Dec 2018
#11
"terrified of going back to a country that is too horrific to even imagine" lol
EX500rider
Dec 2018
#13
It's history does not change the fact that Jamaica & the Bahamas are more dangerous. n/a
EX500rider
Dec 2018
#21
Inaccurate headline. The father wants an investigation & her cause of death determined.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#4
When the facts are in, if it is determined CBP was indeed negligent, I'll be happy to condemn them.
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#33
You describe yourself as the self-appointed opinion police of progressive opinion on this site.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#38
I see you think you are the only one who can decide when the "full facts" have emerged.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#44
Maybe if they had just granted her a temporary protected status and helped her family ...
marble falls
Dec 2018
#6
Hmmm. An incarcerated father, in a position of total weakness, says his incarcerators...
Honeycombe8
Dec 2018
#16
He was speaking to personnel from his country's consulate. He has no reason to lie to them.
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#23
So because he was imprisoned, it follows logically that he lied to an official from his consulate?
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#36
I'm sorry you think that an observation about people playing the Blame Game is "gratuitous."
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#48
I accept that your opinion is different. You are the one who can't accept others' opinions.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#51
I can absolutely accept that others' opinions differ, and I can absolutely comment on them.
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#54
You are the one getting "worked up" by people pointing out how wrong and hypocritical you are.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#62
Maybe calling it a concetration camp is too much for you, but the Tornillo camp in Texas is evil.
SunSeeker
Dec 2018
#20
Per the article, he's at a migrant shelter in El Paso called Annunciation House.
Jedi Guy
Dec 2018
#57