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In reply to the discussion: Report: Russian troll farm included pro-Jill Stein messaging on social media [View all]LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)Why not throw in Bernie Sanders and the BLM movement too then?
How does that sound? "Black Lives Matter was as much of a traitor as Trump, Flynn and Manafort"
Don't you think that the less complicated explanation is probably the most probable? That Putin simply wanted to create chaos, and worked to "help" any other party or person that would take votes away from the Democrats and Hillary, or to sow division between those groups?
Because the anti-Stein sentiment in here is so shrill at times I gotta wear ear plugs. Its embarrassing actually. And further it is proof of how easy it was and still is for Putin to shape opinion even on the supposedly more educated left.
I can understand some grumbling about the 1% of the vote she scooped up, voters who mostly would not vote for either major party anyways, but I wish some would find reality soon. Its a free democracy. One of the "costs" of living in a free democracy, is that anyone and any party can run for office, if they have raised enough, and have enough candidates that believe in the message, to run.
If Stein and the Green Party, a party that is respected around the globe for standing up for the environment and other more liberal causes, sees there are still issues that they think the Democratic, or Republican party for that matter, are not addressing satisfactorly for them, and think there are enough voters that will at least help elevate their platform, even if they know they can't win, then that is their right.
I know we'd rather they not run. But then again, I'm sure the Republican party wishes that the Libertarian party didn't run either. Pretty safe to say that most Libertarians would lean Republican if they had to choose. And they took 3x the votes away potentially from Republicans! But its a democracy people. The way to fight back the Greens is to address the same issues...better. Or convince enough that your party can do it better. WHICH DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE! That's why Greens only get 1%.
The idea that Stein is some kind of secret Putin lover, a man that is fundamentally against every principle and platform of the Green party is utterly absurd. And I think that those that promote that insane theory are only hurting themselves and demeaning the Democratic voter. Dem voters aren't stupid. The vast majority would say that the Green's have a good platform, much of which mirrors the Democrats, but that this is not the time to help a more left leaning third party to rise and grow legs, because of the massive threat on the right that has to be stopped. That is reality.