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LiberalLovinLug

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33. My intent was not to minimize the success of Russia's actions
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:41 PM
Dec 2018

Not sure where you got that impression. In fact I think it was a huge factor. Without it we would have clearly won.

And Putin targeted everyone. Well everyone other than Trump. I just find it almost laughable these posts like the ones above by louis c. Not everyone who is used by Putin's and the home grown deplorable troll farms is guilty of participating in being used. Anyone can join a pro-Stein, or pro-Bernie, or pro-Trump web site and leave poisonous comments, or post disgusting memes. And when you take that fact and add it to the international reputation of the Green Party, and even Jill Stein's reputation with her early work fighting coal mining, children's health, and part of Physicians for Social Responsibility. I'm not trying to pump Stein's tires here, but only pointing out that it would take an incredible psychotic about face for someone with her background to suddenly decide she would only pretend to care about those issues and deliberately and secretly work with one of the most corrupt, right wing authoritarian, anti-liberal, anti-green asshole alive in Putin.

I just think we have to start with a base of reality. And while I understand not voting Green, or helping them, I am somewhat uncomfortable inventing conspiracy theories that paint another liberal environmentalist party as evil. Most all of any Green party supporters want practically everything we want. They just, for whatever reason, have become disillusioned with either the Democratic Party, or just the whole Washington establishment. So these are not evil people, nor is Stein herself. The humane way to steer votes back towards the Democratic party is have a nominee and a platform, that most of them will vote for. Honey works better than vinegar.

Putin's goal was not for Trump to win. DetlefK Dec 2018 #1
LOL! ChiTownDenny Dec 2018 #6
Shirley you're jesting..... erronis Dec 2018 #20
Yes. ChiTownDenny Dec 2018 #22
The intelligence assessment stay remains accurate. Igel Dec 2018 #47
goals change with circumstances qazplm135 Dec 2018 #52
Kick dalton99a Dec 2018 #2
It wasn't just pro Stein, watoos Dec 2018 #3
+1 Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #4
Stein was an active participant, Bernie wasn't louis c Dec 2018 #5
Yes... only reason Putin helped Bernie was because his name wasn't Hillary groundloop Dec 2018 #7
You may be right, and it certainly looks that way, watoos Dec 2018 #8
I think the powers know. There was this.. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #12
Useful! Idiot Maybe? MiddleClass Dec 2018 #28
BS LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #13
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #14
.. progree Dec 2018 #18
Good call! marble falls Dec 2018 #23
Thanks progree Dec 2018 #36
He was being watched every inch of the way. marble falls Dec 2018 #44
No black lives matter members were at the dinner with Putin and Flynn louis c Dec 2018 #19
la la land LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #34
With all due respect... louis c Dec 2018 #38
Thank You! Cha Dec 2018 #42
Oh, and here I was trying to prevent you from embarrasing yourself LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #49
Ya, I noticed a lot of DUers just jumping at the chance of supporting your position louis c Dec 2018 #55
You come to DU to "exchange ideas"? and then proceed to block someone who exchanges different ideas LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #56
By defending the Lying Ratfucker, 3rd party jill stein, you Cha Dec 2018 #60
Flynn doesn't speak Russian, Don Jr doesn't speak Russian. RT is not respected by anyone on DU ... marble falls Dec 2018 #45
Well I didn't say "Jill Stein doesn't speak Russian", although I fail to see the humor. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #50
Oh, and by the way, the Green Party has accomplished only 2 things in America... louis c Dec 2018 #21
while I think your comments are spot on, miniimizing the success of Russia's action MiddleClass Dec 2018 #32
My intent was not to minimize the success of Russia's actions LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #33
sorry, I first wrote this statement as Jill Stein's success, MiddleClass Dec 2018 #35
NYT reporting Russians targeted African Americans noiretextatique Dec 2018 #9
Heck, David Brock did as much divisive damage than any Russians could dream up. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #17
Why wouldn't you want people to correct the record and debunk Russian propaganda about the betsuni Dec 2018 #40
you're WRONG. David Brock and Media Matters Cha Dec 2018 #43
Yeah, that's why David Brock felt compelled to apologize for his shitty behavior. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #48
That's over and done with a long time ago.. he & MediaMatters have more than Cha Dec 2018 #54
Lol. Every subject in this thread is over and done with Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #57
jill stein is still the fucking idiot Cha Dec 2018 #58
. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #59
I was reporting this about the Detroit and how Trump 1.Won Michigan 2.Won Pennsylvania MiddleClass Dec 2018 #26
Pro-Bernie brigade you mean. betsuni Dec 2018 #39
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2018 #10
Stein pretended to be above it all Moebym Dec 2018 #11
Fuck Jill Stein. tinrobot Dec 2018 #15
Just one ignorant tool.... Hulk Dec 2018 #16
Just being on twitter during this time, most came to this conclusion already. riversedge Dec 2018 #24
What is "New Knowledge"? JackRiddler Dec 2018 #25
researching exactly what, MiddleClass Dec 2018 #27
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #29
No surprise there. Jill Stein was never on our side. MineralMan Dec 2018 #30
It looks like they acted as a megaphone for extreme versions of all grassroots groups or karynnj Dec 2018 #31
Keep digging and I bet there were anti-Jill Stein messages from similar sources. mpcamb Dec 2018 #37
The green party's always been an asset to Republicans. Rizen Dec 2018 #41
And often enough the recipiants of GOP campaigning funds. marble falls Dec 2018 #46
Right. This is among the biggest no-news news of the year. :) Hortensis Dec 2018 #51
I'm not even remotely surprised by this. (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #53
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