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DallasNE

(8,019 posts)
12. The Concept Makes No Sense
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

Something that would make more sense would be to follow the medical expense methodology whereby first dollars are exempt until a percentage of total income is met. Assume 2 different people have the exact $20,000 in medical expenses but one earns $55,000 and the other earns $800,000 and the percent is 6% of income. For the person with an income of $55,000 the first $1,200 would not be allowed, giving them an $18,800 deduction. For the person with income of $800,000 the first $48,000 would not be allowed meaning they get no deduction. Lets now do that with all expenses but this time the first person has another $10,000 in mortgage interest, etc. and the second person has another $80,000 in various expenses. The first person still has $1,200 not allowed which would lead them with a $28,000 deduction. The 2nd person still has $48,000 not allowed but this time gets a $42,000 deduction. Lastly, lets change the medical expenses to a more normal $7,500 for both. The first person has $17,500 in expenses minus the $1,200 not allowed so they get a deduction of $16,300. The second person has $87,500 in expenses minus the $48,000 not allow so they get a deduction of $39,500. Right now deductions are geared to offset the progressivity in the tax rates. This would remove some of the regressive nature of deductions. Often made regressive by allowing deductions that are only available to those on the top end. Lastly, nothing works unless all income is treated equally.

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Keep on talking, Wrongney . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #1
I hope Jim Lehrer holds Mitt's feet to the fire tonight and makes him explain himself renate Oct 2012 #2
The deduction cap may also negatively impact donations to the arts and charities no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #3
but, but, but these agencies are supposed to do the work of helping the poor central scrutinizer Oct 2012 #7
The right has been at war... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #10
Change 'may' to 'will' and you have something jmowreader Oct 2012 #40
This is not a legitimate proposal ... it's a contrivance bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #4
How about we just extend the Bush Tax cuts for the lower 95% Cosmocat Oct 2012 #18
That's not how it works jmowreader Oct 2012 #41
I am TRYING to help my somewhat sane republican friends Cosmocat Oct 2012 #44
Is it just itemized deductions? I'm not sure that what he said. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #5
This is what he said: muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #14
It couldn't possibly be revenue neutral because BlueStreak Oct 2012 #15
BINGO Cosmocat Oct 2012 #21
Right. It was never intended to be revenue neutral BlueStreak Oct 2012 #25
You also forgot his corporate tax cut jmowreader Oct 2012 #42
There are more than two choices BlueStreak Oct 2012 #45
We could and should do all these things... jmowreader Oct 2012 #46
The GNCGFH Act of 2013. I like it. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #47
You need an annual income of roughly $150,000 to afford a $500,000 mortgage. Lasher Oct 2012 #6
$17,000 cap includes medical deductions, etc. emulatorloo Oct 2012 #8
Few People Get To Take Medical Deductions DallasNE Oct 2012 #13
Yup. For me the "etc." includes a couple of big deductible items: state income tax & property tax progree Oct 2012 #19
^Listen to Progree, he's smart...eom Kolesar Oct 2012 #22
Great post. N/t emulatorloo Oct 2012 #39
Your numbers are completely WRONG CreekDog Oct 2012 #9
Bay Area home buyers could still deduct *most* of their interest Kolesar Oct 2012 #16
look, if you are gung ho in defending the romney tax plan CreekDog Oct 2012 #26
That was stupid on your part Kolesar Oct 2012 #27
as proud as your are smug CreekDog Oct 2012 #31
I also find it laughable that you think someone can't get a mortgage more than 19% of gross income CreekDog Oct 2012 #11
Your ignorance doesn't make me wrong. Lasher Oct 2012 #32
I provided the numbers that show you are wrong CreekDog Oct 2012 #33
Ended up getting a cheaper place, did you? Lasher Oct 2012 #34
I didn't have a liar's loan, my income ratios were fine, my credit ratings well over 800... CreekDog Oct 2012 #35
OK let's take a closer look. Lasher Oct 2012 #36
you're saying my taxes should go up by 4000 so that the wealthy can have that money? CreekDog Oct 2012 #37
Looks like you're not laughing anymore. Lasher Oct 2012 #38
The Concept Makes No Sense DallasNE Oct 2012 #12
It is all WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION. Why should America be talking about this now? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #17
Isn't it crazy that Romney can beat up the President for "wealth redistribution" one day and then Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 #28
The deduction cap came out of Romney's dunce cap. Vapors. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #20
The laws regarding capital gains taxes on the sale of a house already harm people in the JDPriestly Oct 2012 #23
This would target Romney's prime profit harvesting zone. Turbineguy Oct 2012 #24
Yes. NutmegYankee Oct 2012 #43
And don't forget Ryan's "Broaden the base" OldHippieChick Oct 2012 #29
We need to broaden the base to lighten the load on the overburdened millionaires and billionaires Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 #30
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