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SWBTATTReg

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8. I thought that they (the Chinese) have already been cutting their exposure to these US bonds and ...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

securities, for years. One thing people seem to not realize that why would the Chinese, in flooding the marketplace w/ these bonds and notes, would hurt their rate of return by dumping these things, thus depressing the price(s) of bonds and notes, etc.?

Doesn't make sense and this very same argument was made before (years and years ago) that they would be selling these things (but didn't) and the same argument back then was made that why would the Chinese kill their rate of return by selling off their portfolio early, incurring penalties and losses, etc.?

Why would the Chinese (along the same lines) depress the value of the US Dollar as some would seem to think (and still do), when they would get fewer US Dollars after selling their US Dollar based assets? The Chinese literally have roughly $180 billion of investment in the U.S. today (per google), remember, trade deficits?).

Again, I suspect very strongly that these stories of hysteria originate from republican sources (figures), who are trying to stir up resentment etc. of some sort. Which is totally ignorant and not well thought out, I mean, think about it, would you take a loss in the literally tens of billions of dollars (out of billions and billions in assets) just to, eh, do what? force down the value of US Dollar based assets probably for a very short interval of time to make a point of some kind?

China, I dare you! I double dog dare you! yaesu Sep 2020 #1
Well, if they dumped their entire portfolio of Treasuries, they'd wreck the USD. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #2
True, Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #3
The Russians would follow by dumping their's ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #9
chinese will survive, US not so much, this is coming sooner than later and be based around beachbumbob Sep 2020 #17
Not necessarily. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #19
Good point. n t OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #20
all part of putins plan.... destabilize the dollar and knock it off as international standard getagrip_already Sep 2020 #4
RIGHT! bluestarone Sep 2020 #7
All the "chaos" by Orange julius has the world and and U.S. on brink. He must be thrilled Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #5
What? If they do that soon, it could shift votes away from TRE45ON. NCjack Sep 2020 #6
I thought that they (the Chinese) have already been cutting their exposure to these US bonds and ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #8
On the same token, why would republicans start the rumors? It doesn't help their cause. Escurumbele Sep 2020 #12
I disagree. Everything is interconnected in this world, far more than a lot of people realize. SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #13
I'd like to put this mildly but....EVERYBODY PANIC!!! TrogL Sep 2020 #10
There is no "Call" provisions...they would have to sell in the open market... ashredux Sep 2020 #16
Donald mentioned reneging on the debt during his campaign. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #11
That would be BEYOND DISASTROUS! ashredux Sep 2020 #15
First, they will not "dump" all US Treasures...but they can cause some market havoc ashredux Sep 2020 #14
How would this affect Social Security Trust Fund and Federal Disabilities Insurance Trust Fund marie999 Sep 2020 #18
Zero. roamer65 Sep 2020 #22
The Federal Reserve will monetize all of it. roamer65 Sep 2020 #21
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