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FBaggins

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27. Lots of data points... but misses the bigger picture

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:21 PM

Jul 2021

Let's assume that your party opposes a particular piece of legislation (and cares enough about it to risk blocking it).

If you control the House and they control the Senate... you just vote it down in the House. You don't filibuster.

If you control the Senate and they control the House... you just vote it down in the Senate. You don't filibuster.

If you control both... you don't let it come up for a vote. You don't filibuster.

If you control neither, but you control the White House... you don't filibuster, you veto it

It's only when the other party controls House/Senate/Presidency that a filibuster really matters.

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Biden: 'Nothing at all will get done' if filibuster abolished [View all] brooklynite Jul 2021 OP

I don't get it. ancianita Jul 2021 #1

I think it boils down to BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #3

The problem (or not really)... LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #4

Well there is also a differential BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #5

WHAT 'GOP platform' ? DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #26

How often did the Dems use the filibuster when they were in the minority? How about the GQP? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #11

Even the threat of the filibuster stopped the GOP. Calista241 Jul 2021 #14

Thank you. That puts the issue in better focus for me. nt LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #15

Well the GOP took over the Senate in January 2014, and then the "fun" began BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #16

Lots of data points... but misses the bigger picture FBaggins Jul 2021 #27

But you miss one thing BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #12

But that doesn't make sense . . . . markpkessinger Jul 2021 #21

I have a feeling BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #25

McConnell and the Rs would dump the fillibuster Deminpenn Jul 2021 #29

Exactly BumRushDaShow Jul 2021 #31

If Democrats do the right things for the people, republicans will not win again, keeping the Escurumbele Jul 2021 #17

As opposed to what's happening now? Miguelito Loveless Jul 2021 #2

well in fairness TFG just used EOs Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #7

Damned if we do. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #6

POORLY WRITTEN HEADLINE!!!!!! They're taking Pres. Biden somewhat out of context. groundloop Jul 2021 #8

you are right - that distinction is important to point out samsingh Jul 2021 #18

If The Democrats Think... GB_RN Jul 2021 #9

Filibuster was supposed to encourage both sides to hear one another bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #10

There was a supermajority requirement under the Articles of Confederation . . . . markpkessinger Jul 2021 #23

You're correct bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #24

interesting headline... stillcool Jul 2021 #13

okay, then fine. make it a real filibuster rather than this bullshit we currently have. Javaman Jul 2021 #19

What would the GOP do if tables were turned? End it immediately. Dems are too damn nice IMHO. Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #20

That makes no sense to me at all. Joe has got himself mired in the fantasy of bipartisanship. Vinca Jul 2021 #22

The exact opposite would happen Deminpenn Jul 2021 #30