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Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
27. Thanks Raygun.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 03:04 PM
Nov 2021

Long article, but excellent discussion of the roots of the ongoin mental health crisis in this country. Goes back to the 1960's.

https://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ronald_reagans_shameful_legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/

Ronald Reagan's shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness
As president and governor of California, the GOP icon led the worst policies on mental illness in generations


One month prior to the election, President Carter had signed the Mental Health Systems Act, which had proposed to continue the federal community mental health centers program, although with some additional state involvement. Consistent with the report of the Carter Commission, the act also included a provision for federal grants “for projects for the prevention of mental illness and the promotion of positive mental health,” an indication of how little learning had taken place among the Carter Commission members and professionals at NIMH. With President Reagan and the Republicans taking over, the Mental Health Systems Act was discarded before the ink had dried and the CMHC funds were simply block granted to the states. The CMHC program had not only died but been buried as well. An autopsy could have listed the cause of death as naiveté complicated by grandiosity.

President Reagan never understood mental illness. Like Richard Nixon, he was a product of the Southern California culture that associated psychiatry with Communism. Two months after taking office, Reagan was shot by John Hinckley, a young man with untreated schizophrenia. Two years later, Reagan called Dr. Roger Peele, then director of St. Elizabeths Hospital, where Hinckley was being treated, and tried to arrange to meet with Hinckley, so that Reagan could forgive him. Peele tactfully told the president that this was not a good idea. Reagan was also exposed to the consequences of untreated mental illness through the two sons of Roy Miller, his personal tax advisor. Both sons developed schizophrenia; one committed suicide in 1981, and the other killed his mother in 1983. Despite such personal exposure, Reagan never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness.

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In the 1980s, this all changed. Deinstitutionalization became, for the first time, a topic of national concern. The beginning of the discussion was heralded by a 1981 editorial in the New York Times that labeled deinstitutionalization “a cruel embarrassment, a reform gone terribly wrong.” Three years later, the paper added: “The policy that led to the release of most of the nation’s mentally ill patients from the hospital to the community is now widely regarded as a major failure.” During the following decade, there were increasing concerns publicly expressed about mentally ill individuals in nursing homes, board-and-care homes, and jails and prisons. There were also periodic headlines announcing additional high-profile homicides committed by individuals who were clearly psychotic. But the one issue that took center stage in the 1980s, and directed public attention to deinstitutionalization, was the problem of mentally ill homeless persons.

[snip]

The problems of mentally ill individuals in nursing homes and board-and-care homes rarely elicited media attention in the 1980s. By contrast, the problem of homeless persons, including the mentally ill homeless, became a major story. In Washington, Mitch Snyder and the National Coalition for the Homeless burst onto the national scene by staging hunger strikes and sleep-ins on sidewalk grates. Their message was that homeless persons are just like you and me and all they need is a house and a job. Snyder challenged President Reagan, accusing him of being the main cause of homelessness, and the media extensively covered the controversy. By the time Snyder committed suicide in 1990, homelessness had become a major topic of national discussion.


You put a 'd' on the end of 'trouble'. Aristus Nov 2021 #1
He's a piece of shit who needs to be locked away forever DenaliDemocrat Nov 2021 #44
Releasedfrom jail??????????? grumpyduck Nov 2021 #2
He was released from a prior charge FBaggins Nov 2021 #10
Thanks for clarifying. grumpyduck Nov 2021 #14
How could he have been released from jail after resisting? onecaliberal Nov 2021 #3
And jumping bail!! aeromanKC Nov 2021 #4
It was self defense Effete Snob Nov 2021 #5
Well see if this trial will have every second scrutinized jimfields33 Nov 2021 #8
I can hear orange man already KS Toronado Nov 2021 #9
Except the suspect is a POC geardaddy Nov 2021 #13
I would not jump to any conclusions or make any accusations at this point. totodeinhere Nov 2021 #17
Yes I did jump to a conclusion, sorry about that KS Toronado Nov 2021 #23
Thanks Raygun. Tommymac Nov 2021 #27
Let's not jump to conclusions while concluding Devil Child Nov 2021 #34
Fair enough. n/t totodeinhere Nov 2021 #36
Yeah, somehow I doubt that Polybius Nov 2021 #22
First thing I thought of. momta Nov 2021 #24
No, it was murder. I'd argue pre-mediated. Devil Child Nov 2021 #33
Maybe he feels threatened by parades Effete Snob Nov 2021 #37
Considering his social media history of voicing support for violence against elderly white people Devil Child Nov 2021 #38
Sure I do Effete Snob Nov 2021 #40
Self-defense Devil Child Nov 2021 #39
good riddence catsudon Nov 2021 #42
Violence with deadly results seems to be the new jaywalking DFW Nov 2021 #6
He won't get no bail this time around. Remand for him. vlyons Nov 2021 #7
I'm pretty sure he was drunk also. Actually, it was my first thought. Texin Nov 2021 #15
Hope he never sees the light of day again. Piece of shit. Lucky Luciano Nov 2021 #11
if this is the killer llashram Nov 2021 #12
This is Rittenhouse Wisconsin. Kill who you want, cry on the stand, home for dinner. johnthewoodworker Nov 2021 #16
...if you're the right color RevBrotherThomas Nov 2021 #18
I condemn this tragedy of course. But... totodeinhere Nov 2021 #19
He's 1,000 times worse than that little punk Polybius Nov 2021 #21
He ran into a marching band. Either a possible hate crime or a psychopath. 58Sunliner Nov 2021 #31
Regardless, under our system of justice he should get a fair trial with competant totodeinhere Nov 2021 #35
most poor white folk do not get the defense Rittenhouse got Skittles Nov 2021 #51
Here's his mugshot Polybius Nov 2021 #20
There was another incident in Manchester, CT Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #25
charged three times in less than two years... SunImp Nov 2021 #26
K and R... Stuart G Nov 2021 #28
This is bad-- the right of course is going to see this as a hate crime against whites LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #29
It was an attack Devil Child Nov 2021 #30
he is clearly a bad dude but I got the sense he was fleeing and only hit people at the end LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #48
He wasn't fleeing, he left one crime scene and started another Devil Child Nov 2021 #50
It's certainly possible, we just don't have the full story yet LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #52
Waukesha is 88.8% white. Could have been a hate crime. 58Sunliner Nov 2021 #32
the man has a long history of trouble with the law Skittles Nov 2021 #45
He also has a social media history filled with anti-semitism and anti-white racism Devil Child Nov 2021 #49
Ugh. I saw his twitter, didn't see his lyrics. 58Sunliner Dec 2021 #55
He isn't a trumper, but just because he does not espouse crimes against a race/ethnicity- 58Sunliner Dec 2021 #56
possible but it seemed the way he zipped by so many other people that would have been easy to hit LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #46
I thought the suspect was running away from a stabbing crime n/t pasha the cat Nov 2021 #41
I heard on CNN that he was fleeing a domestic violence incident BigmanPigman Nov 2021 #43
it seemed to fit that scenario more to me LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #47
Sounds like a real scumbag jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #53
John Chisholm is the DA that let him out on bail. Calista241 Nov 2021 #54
Letting dangerous assholes out on bail happens all of the time - everywhere in the country... tenderfoot Dec 2021 #57
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