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In reply to the discussion: Joe Manchin swings at Biden's billionaire tax, saying the superrich can't be taxed on 'things you do [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)34. That doesn't actually explain about what would be done if stock value went down
She said that they'd have 9 years to make to first payment, and after that 5 years. That is also said here:
Minimum tax on persons with net worth over $100 million. A 20% minimum tax would apply on total income earned or unrealized appreciation. First year tax could be paid over 9 years, thereafter, over 5 years
https://blogs.claconnect.com/agribusiness/here-they-go-again-2/
https://blogs.claconnect.com/agribusiness/here-they-go-again-2/
Now, perhaps that means that, if your stock starts at $1000m, and then increases to $2000m at the end of year 1, but then falls to $1200m by the end of year 2, that you'll be able to say, in year 9, "forget the $1000m gain I made in year 1 - it became just a $200m gain by the end of year 2, so I owe 20% on $200m, ie $40m, for the 2 years". But that's a guess on how it could work, rather than something that's been explained. And I can't quite see what "First year tax could be paid over 9 years, thereafter, over 5 years" means - if you have to have paid year 1's tax by the end of year 9, do you have to have paid year 2's tax by the end of year 6, or 7?
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Joe Manchin swings at Biden's billionaire tax, saying the superrich can't be taxed on 'things you do [View all]
Polybius
Mar 2022
OP
If they are floating loans to live on, using that paper wealth as collateral....
TheRealNorth
Mar 2022
#3
unrealized gains are not income because the tax law was written that way.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
Mar 2022
#26
So, of we tax assets at, say, their present value, do we give them....
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2022
#5
I just don't see how a billionaire can afford to live if they have to pay more in taxes
ColinC
Mar 2022
#10
He profits from "gob" i.e. garbage coal...then lets call him Joe "gob" Manchin.
Peregrine Took
Mar 2022
#13
That doesn't actually explain about what would be done if stock value went down
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2022
#34
More detail; this also raises the top rate on realized gains to 39.6%, also payable on inheritance
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2022
#39
Please, people, vote in the midterms. I'm so sick of always hearing, "no" from this dude.
Joinfortmill
Mar 2022
#20