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100. All I know is, the world is going to have to adapt to a lot of science stuff.

Reply to The Grand Illuminist (Original post)

Fri Aug 2, 2024, 10:19 PM

Aug 2

The fact is, gender is a spectrum. It's not the long-held notion of either/or. We'll have to maybe change some things in sports to accommodate this. Some way to match competitors evenly. I can't say if it will be fair, or inclusive, but I know how society can be. Likely to be a huge struggle and take a long time.

I do know that I have no issues with gay people, trans people, people who aren't either sex, or care about sex, people who like both sexes. Or whatever. We are who we are. It doesn't hurt anyone to be accepting.

Also, researching some stuff posted here, I learned that older fathers are more likely to have girls. My daddy was 28 when I was born, his first child, female, and he had two boys and four girls altogether. Didn't learn that in sex ed!

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Boxer previously barred from women's events wins fight after opponent quits in 46 seconds [View all] The Grand Illuminist Aug 1 OP

No idea what the answer is. jimfields33 Aug 1 #1

The answer is that SHE was born female. Jirel Aug 1 #8

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Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan are both female, not transgender IronLionZion Aug 1 #3

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In which the difference between chromosomes and gender is not understood. RockRaven Aug 2 #54

If you are referring to an XY abnormality in women, it varies. 58Sunliner Aug 2 #57

IOC uses different tests than the IBA. These 2 women passed the IOC tests IronLionZion Aug 2 #81

The IOC took over the boxing for the Olympics from the IBA for Paris. 58Sunliner Aug 2 #87

Paywall. I couldn't access it. Is there another source for this story? CTyankee Aug 1 #4

Try this TommyT139 Aug 1 #23

Let her box. DJ Porkchop Aug 1 #5

The Shameful Controversy Over Olympic Boxer Imane Khelif TommyT139 Aug 1 #6

I didn't really see the original NBC article stopdiggin Aug 1 #10

Not pushing, promoting TommyT139 Aug 1 #22

Update/PS TommyT139 Aug 1 #26

I simple can't see this as 'promotion' of a particular viewpoint. stopdiggin Aug 2 #44

Genially, yes. nt TommyT139 Aug 2 #55

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Weird. sybylla Aug 1 #16

What point were you trying to make? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2 #34

What a weird post tenderfoot Aug 2 #41

Behold! vercetti2021 Aug 2 #67

Behold? Are you proud of proving a right wing talking point? John Shaft Aug 2 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Aug 1 #15

Carini was psyched out, imo onandup Aug 1 #20

Are we going to have more TERFiness here? Jirel Aug 1 #7

Fact: she is not trans, but Y chromosomes do make her intersex. Steven Maurer Aug 1 #25

From what I read there hasn't actually been any evidence put forth that she even has a Y chromosome at all LostOne4Ever Aug 2 #36

Sure. There's enough we don't know.. Steven Maurer Aug 2 #49

There is no proof -- why in the world are you carrying water for teh Russians? obamanut2012 Aug 2 #91

The International Boxing Association Steven Maurer Aug 2 #99

Unfair advantage? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2 #43

If it occurs naturally, what's unfair about it? Shrek Aug 2 #79

That is how I see it Zeitghost Aug 2 #92

Incorrect. Jirel Aug 2 #84

No, she isn't -- there is no proof she has a Y -- NONE obamanut2012 Aug 2 #90

Straight up FACTS. Thank you. underpants Aug 1 #28

You should cross post that to LGBT group! LostOne4Ever Aug 2 #40

See post 11 tenderfoot Aug 1 #29

Of course! vercetti2021 Aug 2 #65

joint IOC/Paris Boxing Unit statement stopdiggin Aug 1 #9

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The IBA did this as part of it's squabble with the IOC underpants Aug 1 #27

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And TERFs should STFU. sybylla Aug 1 #14

TERFies gonna TERF, TERF, TERF, TERF, TERF, TERF... regnaD kciN Aug 1 #32

Unfortunately, yes. ShazzieB Aug 2 #37

It is a little encouraging TommyT139 Aug 2 #58

That bigoted poster has been shown the door tenderfoot Aug 2 #97

Having Y chromosomes does not radical noodle Aug 1 #18

Gawd BrianTheEVGuy Aug 1 #19

Misgendering? Really? TommyT139 Aug 1 #21

She's a she tenderfoot Aug 1 #24

Yes, SHE is. ShazzieB Aug 2 #38

Please give your sources on the biological evidence here stopdiggin Aug 2 #46

She's spewing Russian talking points found on Telegram tenderfoot Aug 2 #47

Fuck off with the TERFY shit vercetti2021 Aug 2 #66

SHE didn't go through a male puberty LostOne4Ever Aug 2 #68

You know what shouldn't be allowed? blogslug Aug 2 #71

7 recs for posting russian/right wing propaganda garbage John Shaft Aug 2 #76

Musk and Rowling would also want to force her to use the women's bathroom because she was born with female parts. Gore1FL Aug 1 #17

Richard Dawkins stepped into this debate while defending the hater Rowling and has tarnished his reputation wolfie001 Aug 2 #80

I'm fine with IOC decision. It's a shame, but hate/bigotry will increase if she keeps winning. Silent Type Aug 1 #30

if you look at the group that claims she failed a genetic test moonshinegnomie Aug 1 #31

Thanks for this link. ShazzieB Aug 2 #39

Some of the comments here are grotesque. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2 #33

I know, and I'm so sorry. 😔 ShazzieB Aug 2 #42

I've think we've entered the US is a 2 party system with 2 right wings faze of DU tenderfoot Aug 2 #53

Got that right vercetti2021 Aug 2 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author John Shaft Aug 2 #72

learn how to use the IGNORE function, ForgoTheConsequence Skittles Aug 2 #98

Video of the whole match IronLionZion Aug 2 #35

From the Guardian the UN special rapporteur on violence against women and girls, expressed her concern Jk23 Aug 2 #45

What.... róisín_dubh Aug 4 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Aug 2 #48

Can I just be against a sport Frasier Balzov Aug 2 #51

Nonviolence. usonian Aug 2 #59

I agree with that assessment Skittles Aug 2 #62

By all means, ignoramuses and bigots, show your asses in this thread. RockRaven Aug 2 #52

There is a rare percentage of women with either a gender disorder or Swyer syndrome. 58Sunliner Aug 2 #56

By allowing women to compete on women's sports, and shutting the fuck up RockRaven Aug 2 #60

it is really about "protecting women's sports" Skittles Aug 2 #63

For me it is. I can't answer for everybody. 58Sunliner Aug 2 #86

Swyer's doesn't cause high testosterone LostOne4Ever Aug 2 #70

I didn't say it did. My point being that it is rare for a female to test XY. 58Sunliner Aug 2 #88

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True - biological birth gender isn't always clear cut onandup Aug 3 #101

Judging from some of the posts here, Jakes Progress Aug 2 #61

Don't be too sure everyone is a Democrat John Shaft Aug 2 #77

If the loser doesn't want her face beaten to a pulp, perhaps she should play something like checkers instead of boxing. MichMan Aug 2 #64

The transphobe narrative BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2 #73

The whole . . . chromosomes and testostrone determine your sex . . . isn't that simple. Aussie105 Aug 2 #74

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No, she doesn't -- you didn't see that proof anywhere obamanut2012 Aug 2 #96

She was born female, identifies as a female and is competing as a female. Tommy Carcetti Aug 2 #78

And the IBA is a Russian-lead, corrupt organization obamanut2012 Aug 2 #89

Her opponent just straight up and quit... Chakaconcarne Aug 2 #82

Her opponent lost 9 fights The Grand Illuminist Aug 2 #85

And she suffered no injury onandup Aug 3 #102

If Imane was trans... The Grand Illuminist Aug 2 #83

It's illegal in Algeria IronLionZion Aug 2 #93

All I know is, the world is going to have to adapt to a lot of science stuff. mucholderthandirt Aug 2 #100