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24. What you do not understand is that WE, US, created most of these terrorists by our meddling in the

Fri May 31, 2013, 07:35 PM

May 2013

internal affairs of other countries for many, many decades. 9/11 itself was blow-back from this. Our irresponsible response to 9/11 just generated more terrorists.
9/11 didn't start anything. It was in response to our terrorism on other countries.
Our drone war is making even more terrorists as the excuse to continue our war on terror. To win the war on terror, we need to stop making more terrorist we "need to fight".

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Kerry Defends US Drone Policy After Pakistan Hit [View all] Freddie Stubbs May 2013 OP

Fuck you Mr Secretary. Fuddnik May 2013 #1

Put me down for a "fuck you" too, if you don't mind. byeya May 2013 #3

Me three... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #80

The Taliban is like the Mafia in that it's a criminal enterprise that is not a nation. Wars are byeya May 2013 #2

And if Pakistan says no or doesnt fully comply do what? Invade them? No thanks. cstanleytech May 2013 #4

I appreciate your comments. The US has an option at the UN; has a lot of diplomatic pressure to byeya May 2013 #6

Oh I complete with you that all diplomatic efforts should be tried cstanleytech May 2013 #20

There's potentially a lot of pressure that can be brought to bear on a country especially byeya Jun 2013 #74

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have been playing us like a violin for decades. Fuddnik May 2013 #7

Couldn't agree more! byeya May 2013 #10

Precisely! And if we had cooperated with the rest of the world on a police action after 9/11, RC May 2013 #13

Nope, the "war" is never over as you will always have those who think its cstanleytech May 2013 #21

What you do not understand is that WE, US, created most of these terrorists by our meddling in the RC May 2013 #24

Sorry but thats BS. cstanleytech May 2013 #27

You're kidding, right? RC Jun 2013 #71

So true. tblue Jun 2013 #70

The first WTC bombing was handled as a police action and successfully solved byeya Jun 2013 #90

That point seems to escape a lot of people... Even here on Democratic Underground. RC Jun 2013 #91

We have problems with the real Mafia from time to time Kelvin Mace May 2013 #14

"Terrorism will mostly go away when we stop murdering people". Really? Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #19

9/11 was in response to all the Arabs we've been killing in the past decades. RC May 2013 #25

Where did we eventually find and kill OBL? So spare me the Iraq crap. This is about havens in.... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #29

You must be fairly young RC May 2013 #35

So you can explain away 911 because of "history"? How about you answer.... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #40

I gave you plenty of specifics Kelvin Mace May 2013 #49

Maybe that was not good, but it is no justification treestar Jun 2013 #84

So, for you, 9/11 just came out of the blue, no justification for it, except that they RC May 2013 #53

A brief read of Chalmers Johnson's choie May 2013 #56

I thought not! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #59

Afghanistan and Pakistan are not Iraq Kelvin Mace May 2013 #44

I'd hardly call killing a terrorist, "terrorism". Why are we discussing Iraq in this context? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #58

bin Laden was actually afforded more due process Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #75

Do you want to go in and put on the cuffs? I mean, since you're super "concerned" about observing.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #77

Really, that is your argument? Polls? Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #79

Link? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #81

Don't need one Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #83

Link? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #87

First of all Kelvin Mace May 2013 #39

Another justification. Great! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #41

That is not what John2 May 2013 #45

No problem, we are not at "War" we are at "Authorized Use of Military Force" and it provides for 24601 May 2013 #55

Go retrieve your medals. rug May 2013 #5

What would he do with them? Fuddnik May 2013 #8

+ + byeya May 2013 #9

This is the same attack that Republicans made on Kerry in 2004 Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #50

Sure it is. rug May 2013 #51

Another hit of Botox ... GeorgeGist May 2013 #11

"botox' was a RW lie. They used pics of him during cancer treatment and recovery blm Jun 2013 #78

I'm with Kerry. cosmicone May 2013 #12

And who makes the decision? Kelvin Mace May 2013 #15

The President just did that. stevenleser May 2013 #38

Actions not words Kelvin Mace May 2013 #42

Now you are moving the goalposts. You asked for the drone rationale and legal argument its there. nt stevenleser May 2013 #43

So, Obama has relased all of the classified documents Kelvin Mace May 2013 #46

Again, you are moving the goalposts. You wanted the legal rationale, he gave it in the video. nt stevenleser May 2013 #47

Me too, as are most of us! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #23

Most Americans are ridiculous, sweety-pooh. NT Ed Suspicious May 2013 #48

But you seem to stand out in a crowd, honey boo boo! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #57

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service NOVA_Dem May 2013 #16

creepy truthiness support I persume usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #36

And how does Kerry feel about Obama's 30,000 drones flying U.S. neighborhoods by 2020? blkmusclmachine May 2013 #17

Keep up the good work, Mr. Secretary. Pragdem May 2013 #18

I'm with Kerry, and Obama. They're not warmongering neocons. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #22

Still I cant say I like that they have to resort to drones. cstanleytech May 2013 #31

Terrorists know who their friends are. They take aid from us for their "cooperation", and turn..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #33

I thought Mr Kerry was a good guy. What a disappointment. NT Ed Suspicious May 2013 #26

Kerry is whats called a pragmatist which is totally different from George Bush who is cstanleytech May 2013 #28

You're ridiculous. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #30

I miss the John Kerry who threw his medals over the WH fence in protest YeahSureRight May 2013 #32

"Some days I really think I wasted my time even voting." What a load! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #34

Stay home the next time to avoid heartburn. cosmicone Jun 2013 #62

Ok I will just to make you happy! YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #66

The U.S. elite has lost their collective minds since 911. usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #37

The maliciousness astounds me here. babylonsister May 2013 #52

Ja, javul fascisthunter May 2013 #54

wow, the fu crowd needs to chill the f out. DCBob Jun 2013 #60

We hit the intended target? With no bystanders killed? TwilightGardener Jun 2013 #61

Cabinet membes are required to support Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #63

He could resign if he thought this policy was so evil and horrible. DCBob Jun 2013 #64

That would require principle. n/t Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #65

good & no boots on ground maimed/killed. Terrorist Taliban, Paks have offered huge rewards to kil. Sunlei Jun 2013 #67

Lots of comments against Kerry over here. Beacool Jun 2013 #68

Are you really suggesting that Kerry might have a problem with the use of drones? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #72

I'm expressing my opinion. Beacool Jun 2013 #73

Got it! Neither John Kerry, nor Hillary Clinton have integrity, according to beacool. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #76

That's not what I said, but whatever.................. Beacool Jun 2013 #88

Actually from statements made over many years when he was Senator, these are sincere comments karynnj Jun 2013 #86

Thank you for that. I do admire intellectual honesty. You're a treasure. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #89

Thank you karynnj Jun 2013 #92

As for killing other people than the intended target treestar Jun 2013 #85

Did he really say that this was "self-defense"?? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #69

He was against drones before he was FOR them, though. closeupready Jun 2013 #82

I guess we don't get to see evidence. Ash_F Jun 2013 #93