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2banon

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63. James Brooke is with VOA.. go figure
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

(Just to get this bit out of the way right now) and the Moscow Times is a "pro-western" paper .. you know, like FOX news vs Pacifica Radio.. right then.

That aside, in Brooke's own reporting, he is not able to factually state one way or the other the question of Snowden's intent wrt to Russia prior to his arrival there.


Sources in Moscow differ on how Snowden ended up in Russia's care. Some say the Chinese wanted to get rid of him and suggested that he turn to the Russian consulate. Others say Russian officials themselves contacted Snowden at The Mira, the luxury hotel where he was staying in Hong Kong. Another version is that Snowden went to the consulate on his own.



One of many question for me, would be why not just defect directly and quietly..(this is the usual procedure I think) Why put your life on the line by exposing oneself to being assassinated/imprisoned by agents for the West?

It's possible that Snowden was always an agent, maybe even a double agent. The whole affair may just be a huge charade, with the U.S. pulling the strings playing Putin.

We're not likely to find out anytime soon, one way or the other.

So to me, I think we should focus on what Snowden revealed about the Surveillance State apparatus against our citizens.. and take political action with regard to that very serious matter.

Deceit and theft against the American Citizens is the crime that's being ignored.
Well rtracey Sep 2013 #1
So Snowden was a thief because he exposed illegal activity??? Indi Guy Sep 2013 #3
Oh, they were a thief alright. Ash_F Sep 2013 #8
Another question: Lonr Sep 2013 #2
really? think_critically Sep 2013 #4
He had everything to lose and nothing to gain personally for blowing the whistle on... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #6
absolutely think_critically Sep 2013 #9
If you were thinking critically... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #12
Seeking asylum in Russia wasn't the intention and I think you know that. (?) 2banon Sep 2013 #14
He spent days in the Russian embassy in Hong Kong before traveling to Russia struggle4progress Sep 2013 #45
You misquoted me.. 2banon Sep 2013 #56
update: just heard in an interview French Press says Snowden was at Russian Embassy 2banon Sep 2013 #61
It was reported in the Russian paper Kommersant and in the South China Morning Post struggle4progress Sep 2013 #62
James Brooke is with VOA.. go figure 2banon Sep 2013 #63
Mebbe you prefer Izvestia? struggle4progress Sep 2013 #64
From your quote: christx30 Sep 2013 #22
Do you honestly believe other countries were in the dark... 2banon Sep 2013 #23
I don't think it's news christx30 Sep 2013 #25
ok.. but I'm unclear .. 2banon Sep 2013 #27
Why does it matter that the 4th amendment is being christx30 Sep 2013 #31
Completely Agree.. 2banon Sep 2013 #44
Let's say it like it is... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #46
Well put! 2banon Sep 2013 #58
The Chinese press reported, only days before the Obama-Xi summit, that Snowden struggle4progress Sep 2013 #47
Got a link? n/t Indi Guy Sep 2013 #48
I'll let you track down the SCMP links yourself; in my experience, their website is very slow struggle4progress Sep 2013 #50
Lol. Please list those countries willing to give asylum that fit your criteria. nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #38
So is this DU or a Freedom Works website? Rockyj Sep 2013 #7
After the way Bradley Manning has been treated? n/t TxGrandpa Sep 2013 #11
Beecause the US does not respect our human rights enough to treat Snowden with respect for the JDPriestly Sep 2013 #15
Exactly JDP.. 2banon Sep 2013 #24
Wow!... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #30
Excellent post - thanks! (n/t) Nihil Sep 2013 #37
I hope you will make this an OP. woo me with science Sep 2013 #52
The answer here is simple... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #5
It really is that simple Link Speed Sep 2013 #10
Because there are still a lot of swooners and a lot of surveillance groupies. PSPS Sep 2013 #16
NSA security pretty much sucks. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #13
The NSA pretty much sucks. PSPS Sep 2013 #19
I'd bet it wouldn't have taken 3 months to get this far in their investigation TriplD Sep 2013 #17
They've really slacked off in the last 20 years htuttle Sep 2013 #18
Thank you for a very interesting link. nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #39
One I. T. guy single handedly circumvents the most sophisticated security system in the world PuffedMica Sep 2013 #20
that`s seems to be the truth... madrchsod Sep 2013 #21
Either that... 2banon Sep 2013 #26
No one expected him to be a thief and betray his charge. They won't make that mistake again, I'm MADem Sep 2013 #28
How do view Alexander and Clapper? 2banon Sep 2013 #33
I don't. I don't regard them as the sharpest tools in the shed, certainly. MADem Sep 2013 #35
That's allot of speculation there. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #36
I don't think he did. MADem Sep 2013 #42
How do you feel about the NSA's illegal practices... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #49
The legality of the programs isn't entirely clear. I'm not thrilled, but I'm also not thrilled MADem Sep 2013 #51
Well let's clear up the question of legality first... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #53
That's not the whole program, though. MADem Sep 2013 #55
I respect your opinion, and you may be right, however... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #60
I saw it, and the reason my mind goes the other way MADem Sep 2013 #65
Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #67
Oh sure--I'm not claiming any special insight, here. MADem Sep 2013 #68
One thing that I hope we can agree on is that... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #69
Snowden has made the USA incapable of understanding that the NSA-PRISM their one and only tool to a ehcross Sep 2013 #29
It's clear you actually believe those assertions 2banon Sep 2013 #32
"The NSA doesn't exist to protect American Citizens" Kolesar Sep 2013 #40
I think even a cursory review of it's history... 2banon Sep 2013 #43
Great party line propaganda there ehcross. n/t Indi Guy Sep 2013 #34
You should study the actual history of 9/11 and disabuse yourself of these silly notions. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #41
''NSA's chief technology officer, Lonny Anderson..... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #54
because that would mean vilifying a company that pays good money to politicians to not be held yurbud Sep 2013 #57
He may have not been the only person who had access to download internal files. Sunlei Sep 2013 #59
Security guard falls asleep; thieves rob store: we blame the guards AND the thieves alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #66
When you say "we" you don't mean DU Democat Sep 2013 #70
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