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In reply to the discussion: NSA Says Snowden Took Documents From Internal Website: Report... [View all]2banon
(7,321 posts)63. James Brooke is with VOA.. go figure
(Just to get this bit out of the way right now) and the Moscow Times is a "pro-western" paper .. you know, like FOX news vs Pacifica Radio.. right then.
That aside, in Brooke's own reporting, he is not able to factually state one way or the other the question of Snowden's intent wrt to Russia prior to his arrival there.
Sources in Moscow differ on how Snowden ended up in Russia's care. Some say the Chinese wanted to get rid of him and suggested that he turn to the Russian consulate. Others say Russian officials themselves contacted Snowden at The Mira, the luxury hotel where he was staying in Hong Kong. Another version is that Snowden went to the consulate on his own.
One of many question for me, would be why not just defect directly and quietly..(this is the usual procedure I think) Why put your life on the line by exposing oneself to being assassinated/imprisoned by agents for the West?
It's possible that Snowden was always an agent, maybe even a double agent. The whole affair may just be a huge charade, with the U.S. pulling the strings playing Putin.
We're not likely to find out anytime soon, one way or the other.
So to me, I think we should focus on what Snowden revealed about the Surveillance State apparatus against our citizens.. and take political action with regard to that very serious matter.
Deceit and theft against the American Citizens is the crime that's being ignored.
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He had everything to lose and nothing to gain personally for blowing the whistle on...
Indi Guy
Sep 2013
#6
He spent days in the Russian embassy in Hong Kong before traveling to Russia
struggle4progress
Sep 2013
#45
update: just heard in an interview French Press says Snowden was at Russian Embassy
2banon
Sep 2013
#61
It was reported in the Russian paper Kommersant and in the South China Morning Post
struggle4progress
Sep 2013
#62
The Chinese press reported, only days before the Obama-Xi summit, that Snowden
struggle4progress
Sep 2013
#47
I'll let you track down the SCMP links yourself; in my experience, their website is very slow
struggle4progress
Sep 2013
#50
Lol. Please list those countries willing to give asylum that fit your criteria. nt
Democracyinkind
Sep 2013
#38
Beecause the US does not respect our human rights enough to treat Snowden with respect for the
JDPriestly
Sep 2013
#15
One I. T. guy single handedly circumvents the most sophisticated security system in the world
PuffedMica
Sep 2013
#20
No one expected him to be a thief and betray his charge. They won't make that mistake again, I'm
MADem
Sep 2013
#28
The legality of the programs isn't entirely clear. I'm not thrilled, but I'm also not thrilled
MADem
Sep 2013
#51
Snowden has made the USA incapable of understanding that the NSA-PRISM their one and only tool to a
ehcross
Sep 2013
#29
You should study the actual history of 9/11 and disabuse yourself of these silly notions.
Democracyinkind
Sep 2013
#41
because that would mean vilifying a company that pays good money to politicians to not be held
yurbud
Sep 2013
#57
Security guard falls asleep; thieves rob store: we blame the guards AND the thieves
alcibiades_mystery
Sep 2013
#66