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Indi Guy

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Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:33 PM Oct 2013

Edward Snowden Speaks Out Against NSA "Dragnet Mass Surveillance" [View all]

Source: Democracy Now



AMY GOODMAN: Today, in a Democracy Now! special, we spend the hour with four former U.S. intelligence officials—all whistleblowers themselves—who have just returned from visiting National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden in Russia. They are former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, former FBI agent Coleen Rowley, former National Security Agency senior executive Thomas Drake and his lawyer, former U.S. Justice Department ethics adviser Jesselyn Radack.

Last week, the group became the first Americans known to meet with former NSA contractor Snowden in Russia since he was granted temporary asylum there in August. On Wednesday, the group presented Edward Snowden with an award from the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence. After the award ceremony, Snowden spoke about the perils of the mass surveillance state.


EDWARD SNOWDEN: These programs don’t make us more safe. They hurt our economy. They hurt our country. They limit our ability to speak and think and to live and be creative, to have relationships, to associate freely. And they’re going—this doesn’t make us more safe; it makes us less safe, puts us at risk of coming into conflict with our own government. And there’s a far cry between legal programs, legitimate spying, legitimate law enforcement, where it’s targeted, it’s based on reasonable suspicion and individualized suspicion and warranted action, and sort of dragnet mass surveillance that puts entire populations under sort of an eye that sees everything, even when it’s not needed.

This is about a trend in the relationship between the governing and the governed in America that is coming increasingly into conflict with what we expect as a free and democratic people. If we can’t understand the policies and programs of our government, we cannot grant our consent in regulating them. As someone very clever said recently, we don’t have an oversight problem, we have an undersight problem. And it’s led us to a point in our relationship with the government where we have an executive, a Department of Justice, that’s unwilling to prosecute high officials who lied to Congress and the country on camera, but they’ll stop at nothing to persecute someone who told them the truth...

Read more: http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/14/edward_snowden_speaks_out_against_nsa

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Great speech. cosmicone Oct 2013 #1
How right he is JonLP24 Oct 2013 #2
And all the government apologists here will... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #3
What logic? MADem Oct 2013 #11
Wow!!! Indi Guy Oct 2013 #15
Wow!!! MADem Oct 2013 #16
So, you're resigned to the inevitability... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #17
No, not at all. nt MADem Oct 2013 #24
Neither China nor Russia know how Americans felt that 9/11. ehcross Oct 2013 #30
Your limited sense of 'outrage' makes one wonder ... mallard Oct 2013 #31
The Chinese and Russians are "on the same game"? ronnie624 Oct 2013 #22
You'd be better off not telling me about your guesses. MADem Oct 2013 #23
I didn't think you would be able to elaborate on your initial blither. ronnie624 Oct 2013 #28
More rudeness--now any opinion not yours is "blither." MADem Oct 2013 #29
Oh shut the fuck up Traitor Eddie. SoapBox Oct 2013 #4
(As if on cue) I refer you to post #3 Indi Guy Oct 2013 #5
I remember how loudly you shouted that at people upset at warrentless wiretapping during the Bush Township75 Oct 2013 #6
I konw! Plus, he has a weird girlfriend or something too! PSPS Oct 2013 #7
That girlfriend thing... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #9
There is something wrong with being Russian? Bigotry much? idwiyo Oct 2013 #10
I think you forgot the "sarcasm" thingy, right? 2banon Oct 2013 #13
Why do you hate the Constitution so much? Flame me if you want, but I still have a post-1776 Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #18
Well said. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #21
k&r idwiyo Oct 2013 #8
Snowden is still missing the forest for the trees Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #12
the thing is that the people demand the mass searching for terrorist. if okieinpain Oct 2013 #14
By people do you mean Faux New? pam4water Oct 2013 #19
Thanks for a thoughtful objection... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #20
The goverment's surveillance system should be controlled but never abandoned. ehcross Oct 2013 #25
We fundamentally disagree. Indi Guy Oct 2013 #33
Edward Snowden Speaks Out Against NSA "Dragnet Mass Surveillance" ehcross Oct 2013 #26
If you worked for the government... Indi Guy Oct 2013 #34
they gave him an award? looks very odd all 'former' FBI,CIA, National Security, US Justice dept. Sunlei Oct 2013 #27
Thanks shubham Oct 2013 #32
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