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happyslug

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13. When this was proposed for Baltimore, it was suggested for Pittsburgh
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:09 PM
Nov 2013

And in both locations it was for a local route. A Boston to NYC to Philadelphia to DC to Pittsburgh, to Cleveland then Chicago Route would be a variable route. No stops in between, speeds topping 600 mph. NYC to Chicago in under a two hours. Doable by MAGLEV. The reason is the MAGLEV would make no stop in the Appalachians mountains and minimal stops on both sides of those mountains.

It is 299 miles between DC and Pittsburgh
Another 139 miles between Pittsburgh and Cleveland.
340 between Cleveland and Chicago,

http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/257/799/Capitol-Limited-Schedule-071513.pdf

From Boston to NYC 231,
191 from NYC to Philadelphia
135 Philadelphia to DC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela_Express

Sorry, the above would be the most profitable route, 457 between Boston and DC, 780 miles between DC and Chicago. Total 1337 miles at 600 miles per hour under 3 hours. NYC to Chicago in under two hours. At these distances, MAGLEV appears variable (Through, would it be more cost effective to just leaving airlines do the same distances? Every time I look at MAGLEV in the routes where it beats out Steel Rail, it loses to Airplanes, I like MAGLEV but can not determine a place where I would prefer it to Steel Rail or Air Travel).

I bring this up for it is the problem with MAGLEV. It is inferior in terms of cost and speed to Steel Wheels on Steel rails at distances under 500 miles, AND inferior to air plane travel when it comes to costs and speed at distances over 500 miles. Where MAGLEV beats Steel rails, it loses to planes. Where MAGLEV beats out planes, it is in turn beat out by Steel Rail.

Maglev is not new technology, the first relevant patent was in 1905, and technologically could have been built in the 1930s. The reason it has NOT been built is where it is good, other older more tested and reliable systems exist. It is the classic solution looking for a problem to solve. MAGLEV sounds high tech so every 10-20 years it comes back, then loses out for the same reason no one did much with it after 1905, other system exists that work as while or better.

we should have it for the whole nation gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
I agree! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #2
I think only China has it jakeXT Nov 2013 #7
England had one, from 1984 to 1995, closed it down no spare parts, happyslug Nov 2013 #11
I've ridden on that a few times davidpdx Nov 2013 #29
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #3
Sounds like a good idea to me. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #4
Not holding my breath. elleng Nov 2013 #5
Here's an interesting idea: a train that never stops. . . Journeyman Nov 2013 #6
Sorry, but President Christie will shut this down because it creates jobs and helps people. onehandle Nov 2013 #8
Is this going to die, for the same reason it died in the 1990s? happyslug Nov 2013 #9
Thanks. elleng Nov 2013 #10
When this was proposed for Baltimore, it was suggested for Pittsburgh happyslug Nov 2013 #13
AND would never obtain necessary rights of way, elleng Nov 2013 #17
Not exactly untested cvoogt Nov 2013 #12
I did use the word "untested" but I meant "Untested" in the real world. happyslug Nov 2013 #14
Thx for clarification cvoogt Nov 2013 #22
Question: how many people travel between Baltimore and Washington? brooklynite Nov 2013 #19
I have to defer to people who has access to those numbers happyslug Nov 2013 #20
DC-Boston "the only profitable route...and then only by ignoring the need to upgrade" wordpix Nov 2013 #21
Let's hope so. Maglev is a neat toy, but impractical. Xithras Nov 2013 #32
As a Transportation Planner, let me say this is foolish... brooklynite Nov 2013 #15
Right. elleng Nov 2013 #18
I agree with you davidpdx Nov 2013 #28
So much good info from so many of you above! 7962 Nov 2013 #16
way to expensive to be practical madrchsod Nov 2013 #23
transportation of the future Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #24
I was in 5th grade when I came up with the concept of mag-lev trains. AArmstrong Nov 2013 #25
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
Nothing new this was talked about in the 80's and it died..... Historic NY Nov 2013 #26
we have some very old stone bridges Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #30
Those old stone bridges can take the stress of those trains. happyslug Nov 2013 #33
Thanks for the info Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #34
Will mass/centralized travel survive the future? One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #31
Perhaps future transport will be flying through the air in small craft Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #35
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