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newthinking

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35. Your approach is heavily politicized. I am an intellectual and deal in trying to inject honesty into
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:09 AM
Nov 2014

these things.

My views, though humanly imperfect, are completely intellectually and liberally supportable.

It is actually you and some of the other people here that express overly simplified views that incidentally end up doing much the same thing (types of hate and lashing out using vitriol) that you are at the same time trying to oppose.

Here is a video of an interview of specialists discussing Dugin (the most predominant) and his fascist movement in Russia. It is not political, it is a FACTUAL discussion. Marlene Laruelle says almost precisely the point I brought up.

Marlene Laruelle: From Paris to Moscow: Rise of New Far Right Movements Across Europe
Carnegie Council Events feature speakers that are prominent people in the world of international affairs, from acclaimed authors, to Nobel laureates, to high-ranking UN officials. Their remarks are followed by a lively and well-informed…

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/54578361


You can try and paint people with more nuanced (and quite frankly often more experienced and traveled) understandings of what is going on in these countries as some kind of evildoers, but you will have to live with your own conscience; because whether you and similar others here understand it or not: You are actually expressing a mindset of that which you claim to revile (and I also revile) in the mindset that we so often see in Republicans and their ilk.

Because there is so much (inaccurate) painting on this subject I am thinking about adding this as an OP along with the transcript. it may be helpful.



Ramblings of a totally fucked up individual! Sheer evilness on display in the form of a politician! RKP5637 Oct 2014 #1
Did he tweet that out using his iPhone6? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2
Sounds like someone secretly has the hots for a certain CEO rurallib Oct 2014 #3
No iPhones for you!! longship Oct 2014 #4
Ebola? EBOLA? WTF? nt alp227 Oct 2014 #5
Putin's anti-gay Russia and then there's this idiot making the head Dictator all proud. Cha Oct 2014 #6
One day they'll advance into the late twentieth century. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #7
Maybe. :( Cha Oct 2014 #8
Just wait. They Putinistas will soon appear rpannier Oct 2014 #13
They're everywhere.. pushing how great Putin's Russia is and how bad our Country is.. I really wish Cha Oct 2014 #14
They're heeeerrrrree! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #20
Yes davidpdx Oct 2014 #29
Fuck all Homophobic Russians. King_David Nov 2014 #46
Works for us leftofcool Oct 2014 #9
They should stop using anything invented by gays or minorities. 7962 Oct 2014 #10
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2014 #55
And disown Tchaikovsky. closeupready Nov 2014 #57
If Apple products are in Russia... SoapBox Oct 2014 #11
Meanwhile the life expectancy of hetero Russian males is 58 and the birthrate is zero. Monk06 Oct 2014 #12
How many BS statements can one spew in one post? MattSh Oct 2014 #21
Thank you newthinking Nov 2014 #36
And this one is 5 years old... MattSh Oct 2014 #22
I should have mentioned Russian men whose drinking behavior was the object of this study. Monk06 Oct 2014 #33
The birth rate is zero? daleo Nov 2014 #45
Should have said stagnant not zero Monk06 Nov 2014 #49
O NOES! sakabatou Oct 2014 #15
Russia has rightests that say crazy things just like we do. newthinking Oct 2014 #16
Heh. "Most of whom are fairly moderate." joshcryer Oct 2014 #17
On LGBT rights and attitudes you can't distringuish (truthfully) Russia and Ukraine newthinking Oct 2014 #18
OP is about Russia. joshcryer Oct 2014 #27
+1000 JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #31
Fuck the Russian Homophobes, King_David Nov 2014 #47
Antigay Pastor Says 'Upscale Sodomites' Spread Ebola at Starbucks newthinking Oct 2014 #19
Pastor, not elected official. joshcryer Oct 2014 #26
Mahalo for this, josh.. Look at the Putin Protector trying to distract with ugly RWingers in America Cha Oct 2014 #24
ah yes.. the obligatory Putin Protector... like Clockwork.. trying to Distract from Putin's Russian Cha Oct 2014 #23
Your approach is heavily politicized. I am an intellectual and deal in trying to inject honesty into newthinking Nov 2014 #35
And so modest! Adrahil Nov 2014 #51
Feel better now? newthinking Nov 2014 #54
Yes and Yes. Adrahil Nov 2014 #56
'Recognizing same-sex unions brings us closer to apocalypse' - Head of Russian Orthodox Church muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #25
Putin has been promoting the anti-gay idiocy for the past few years rpannier Oct 2014 #32
What? The US has homophobes? ozone_man Nov 2014 #50
Louie Gohmerts genes Turbineguy Oct 2014 #28
But...but...but... Russia is MISUNDERSTOOD??? PUTIN is a GOOD guy...! He doesn't MEAN it!!!! MADem Oct 2014 #30
Also, remember that at some time, some where, someone in the US was a bigot! chrisa Nov 2014 #37
Ha ha ha! But of course--how could I forget!!!! nt MADem Nov 2014 #38
Exactly, chrisa.. but that shite doesn't with thinking people and neither does the ol hypocritical.. Cha Nov 2014 #40
And, I get told my "approach is heavily politicized".. Rofl.. by pointing out that Putin is a Cha Nov 2014 #39
Putin-Palin 2016!!!!! MADem Nov 2014 #41
Yeah, they're both full of Moose shite! Cha Nov 2014 #42
I think Putin probably a closet case. King_David Nov 2014 #48
Many of the comments on the story link are anti-gay and homophobic. yellowcanine Nov 2014 #34
This is just barbaric Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #43
Yeah, I'm sure Cook would be heartbroken to be banned from Russia theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #44
But where will he his.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #52
Interesting remark because... lexx21 Nov 2014 #53
'Milonov' is the Russian word for 'Santorum'? LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #58
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