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(110,318 posts) Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:54 AM Nov 2014

Obama: US public not misled on health care law [View all]

Source: AP-Excite

BRISBANE, Australia (AP) — President Barack Obama says the American public was not misled about certain provisions of his health care law.

A newly surfaced video shows an adviser in the law's drafting, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, saying "the stupidity of the American voter" helped Democrats pass the complex legislation. Gruber made the comment in 2013 but it is adding to conservatives' current call to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Obama says there was no provision of the health care law that was not extensively debated and was not fully transparent.

FULL short story at link.

U.S. President Barack Obama speaks during his news conference at the G20 Summit in Brisbane, Australia, Sunday, Nov. 16, 2014. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

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Obama: US public not misled on health care law [View all] Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP

Except for the whole " if you like your plan you can keep it part" Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #1

The ACA did not require insurers to cancel plans. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #3

Not quite. business owners face a $100 a day fine... quadrature Nov 2014 #7

The maybe they should stop discriminating against women. jwirr Nov 2014 #22

It was never discrimination YarnAddict Nov 2014 #29

These same plans often do pay for problems that only men have so I do think it is discrimination. jwirr Nov 2014 #34

Examples? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #36

The point is that we should not have women or men only health care plans. It is totally insane to jwirr Nov 2014 #38

All your words do not negate the President's. He used the definite "YOU CAN," not "YOU MIGHT." WinkyDink Nov 2014 #8

Um, no YarnAddict Nov 2014 #28

I had something like that for christx30 Nov 2014 #39

No, they could have modified the plan JoePhilly Nov 2014 #45

When they modify the plan YarnAddict Nov 2014 #48

Except that was an insurance scam and a lie propagated by the rwingers.. Cha Nov 2014 #4

Why do folks not understand the insurance companies are less their friends than government, that Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #15

Because some want a chance to call the President a liar.. when nothing could be further from Cha Nov 2014 #16

Exactly! Why is that so hard to message? mountain grammy Nov 2014 #18

Perhaps for the same reason that some people don't understand that "Obamacare" left a good bit our hughee99 Nov 2014 #46

It is STILL an insurance scam. TBF Nov 2014 #56

There's also the part about: OldRedneck Nov 2014 #9

And, "I will insist on a public option", and "We will have full transparency" Doctor_J Nov 2014 #13

I would bet you that about 99% of the people that had insurance before ACA became Law Bandit Nov 2014 #14

I dont think insurance costs have dropped for 99% Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #21

They are telling us to go back to the exchange and comparitive shop for a better plan. Have you? jwirr Nov 2014 #24

My annual max through my employer plan went up by 800% Doctor_J Nov 2014 #47

That is funny. I am working with a woman who got to keep her old useless plan. They have sent her jwirr Nov 2014 #19

Thank you for that, jwirr. Cha Nov 2014 #58

Welcome, we need to work together on things in this group if we are to accomplish anything. jwirr Nov 2014 #59

Standard GOP talking points jpak Nov 2014 #20

Barney frank has called out Obama for that lie Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #23

"But here�s the dirty little secret: Mr. Gruber was exposing something sordid yet completely commonp riversedge Nov 2014 #2

Thanks for that explanation of Gruber's comments! Martin Eden Nov 2014 #6

Good explanation. GOPers obviously want to kill the little progress that's been made groundloop Nov 2014 #12

Well, Republicans do not see it as progress--its socialism to riversedge Nov 2014 #27

^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Nov 2014 #52

Gruber.. smh Cha Nov 2014 #5

Gruber was right OldRedneck Nov 2014 #10

That's the thing, voters are ignorant of how Washington works, or doesn't as the case may be. Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #26

Apparently, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #32

"fully transparent" ctsnowman Nov 2014 #11

It was. It was not fully understood, few laws are. Hardly revolutionary, just more RW propaganda. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #17

That is precisely the same argument JP Morgan used to fuck over the American people with all their jtuck004 Nov 2014 #37

Providing health care for others and personal greed....not the same thing. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #50

I understand what you are saying... jtuck004 Nov 2014 #54

It was not the transparency that is the problem. The bill is far too complicated and hard to jwirr Nov 2014 #25

It is not anymore complicated than Medicare still_one Nov 2014 #31

I have both Medicare and Medicaid and they are very easy to sign up for and use. I think the jwirr Nov 2014 #35

True, but still the difference between the different supplemental group coverages and costs, Plan A still_one Nov 2014 #42

I think you've hit the nail on the head. One should not need a Ph.D. in public policy KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #33

True, but even health insurance reform is a big deal. People who could not get coverage before, at still_one Nov 2014 #44

It was health care reform for a country of 300 million people Cosmocat Nov 2014 #40

Bingo. jwirr Nov 2014 #43

Here is the Gruber video. candelista Nov 2014 #30

Except the "I strongly support a public option" part. Of course NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #49

K&R in the Strongest Possible Terms! Old Nick Nov 2014 #51

I agree with Gruber as far as voters being stupid as if they werent stupid cstanleytech Nov 2014 #53

The American public has been mislead, by the GOP, they are still passing around the "death panel" Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #55

Maybe you should talk TBF Nov 2014 #57