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reACTIONary

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30. Thanks for the article...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:30 PM
Dec 2014

... I read it and the other articles referenced in other posts about the incidents where undercover police were exposed during protests.

From the article: "...the agency and other police departments have had plainclothes officers dressed in protester attire walking in these marches since the first demonstration Nov. 24, and he said they will continue to employ this tactic..."

This is essentially the response given by the Canadian authorities also, to incidents that were linked to in other posts in this thread.

In other words, these are not "agent provocateurs", they are undercover surveillance, intelligence gathering in support of crowd control. This is far more "active" than the "report filers" that I was describing, but it essentially falls into the same category and represents a legitimate police function.

As far as there actually being violent hoodlums and vandals amongst these protestors,in support of whatever "anarchists" or other ideology they identify with, it isn't very hard to find confirmation. Just to prove this point, I did a very cursory web search and very easily found one such advocate of violence, a fellow named Gord Hill who goes by the name of Zig Zag on line and has been publishing advice and encouragement for "black bloc" protest tactics for some number of years on several web sites. His latest post (on Warrior Publications) is advice to help protect the identity of the minority of protestors in Ferguson who employed the violent and destructive tactics he advocates. His "about" page gives his eMail address, and I'm sure that, as long as it does not involve any actually incriminating self-confessions, he would be happy to explain his motivations for advocating violence, vandalism and disruption as protest tactics.

In other words, the black bloc is real and the vandalism is real. And, as you pointed out, the undercover police presence is real - and justified.

My wife just wondered if they are REAL anarchists or police plants/undercovers trying to stir diabeticman Dec 2014 #1
Probably real anarchists. There were quite a few during Occupy too. nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #2
Could be both. bemildred Dec 2014 #11
"real" anarchists... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #16
I'm my days, we called them hijackers thugs Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #3
Try pumks -- that seems to fit starroute Dec 2014 #4
What a pumk? Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #5
Being pumked is like being pwned, I think. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #12
short for pumpkin. I guess olddad56 Dec 2014 #25
I'm smelling BS about this story. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #6
Yup. Provocateurs. It's a very old tactic, too. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #7
The provocatueurs don't do shit... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #17
never saw military/police issue boots on a masked trouble maker? reddread Dec 2014 #20
Doc Martins? I have a pair... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #23
seen them plenty of times reddread Dec 2014 #26
If that were the case, people would have called them "report filers" long ago. Consider the NAME. nt Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #21
Yes, let's consider the name... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #24
yeah reddread Dec 2014 #28
Thanks for the article... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #30
"..protests started out peaceful, but ended with several arrests after vandals and self-described.. Cha Dec 2014 #8
Agents provocateurs Alkene Dec 2014 #9
How the Anarchists spoiled a Peace Demo in my Town McKim Dec 2014 #10
"Anarchists" = cops. Same as it's always been. They're not fooling anybody, except the idiot media, blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #13
Cops p'oed that things are DiverDave Dec 2014 #14
Anarchist is a provocative term albino65 Dec 2014 #15
It's what the the "black block" faction... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #18
You're trying to hard. canuckledragger Dec 2014 #19
I always try hard... reACTIONary Dec 2014 #22
Anarchists my ass! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #27
They ain't anarchists, they're nihilists <nt> bigworld Dec 2014 #29
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