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vadermike

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Reply to RAFisher (Original post)

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:52 PM

Jul 2016

If I remember correctly Bush led Kerry for most of the summer except going into the conventions . It was closer maybe with a small Kerry lead but bush led most of that time period and he won in the end even after the DNC bush still was tied or ahead I don't think Kerry got a bounce ..

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Election Update: Clinton’s Lead Is As Safe As Kerry’s Was In 2004 - Nate Silver [View all] RAFisher Jul 2016 OP

Bush had to STEAL Ohio to stay in office. Rove and TeamKasich won't help Trump steal Ohio like blm Jul 2016 #1

That's where to bet, I guess. elleng Jul 2016 #7

Ah, but a few "things" are missing from that 2004 election. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #2

Kerry did forcefully counter Swiftliars at a speech to Firefighters who endorsed him - Every 'news' blm Jul 2016 #9

It wasn't Kerry's own idea not to fight the smears...it was the former Dukakis people on his staff Ken Burch Jul 2016 #14

Ken - he DID counter and every network refused to carry that speech to Firefighters. blm Jul 2016 #15

interpretation is not revisionsm. Springslips Jul 2016 #16

That's just not accurate. You'd know better if you understood the role the corpmedia played and WHY. blm Jul 2016 #17

It is still interperation. Springslips Jul 2016 #21

Kerry responded and countered - media ignored it. You CHOOSE to adopt corpmedia view. blm Jul 2016 #27

He did that speech, but one speech wasn't going to be enough. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #18

The media had the full Navy records karynnj Jul 2016 #22

Absolutely. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #25

Some of the nomenklatura wanted it. mylye2222 Jul 2016 #28

There was also the Bin Laden video released right before the election... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #12

Yeah, I remember that, too... Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #19

And vadermike Jul 2016 #3

You are correct, and the reason for no bounce was the false terrorism threat announcement. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #4

I remember being infuriated by the series of false warnings that were issued, Nitram Jul 2016 #5

Kerry ran a TERRIBLE campaign. BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #6

Baloney -JK took a few days to prepare for debate where he trounced Bush - BushInc had to steal Ohio blm Jul 2016 #8

True. he had it stolen. . . BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #10

He WAS campaigning - you mixed up a couple days he took off preparing for debate with the blm Jul 2016 #11

What I DO remember is BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #24

It was during the Republican convention karynnj Jul 2016 #23

We cannot be complacent. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #13

this is not 2004... heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #20

Hillary is ahead TeddyR Jul 2016 #26