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Jack Rabbit

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21. "There would be no reason to keep it so secret if it was in the interest of the public"
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jan 2015

That, the last word for Yves Smith, is true.

That would mean that if America were actually a democracy, the default position of the people's representatives would be to oppose the TPP. To fast track this agreement when no member of Congress is allowed to see the whole thing, or even to bring it up for any kind of vote under those circumstances, is like signing a contract without reading the fine print.

The push to ram the TPP through Congress as quickly as possible without public discussion is just further evidence that America is an oligarchy in which corporate masters are aristocrats who presume to know what is best for the whole society and, as aristocratic classes have don throughout history, make decisions conforming to their own narrow interests and tell the unwashed masses that starving to death is good for them. That is the sum of John Galt's speech from Atlas Shrugged.

We, the People, have a right to read the TPP before our representatives in the legislature vote on it. We have a right to discuss this matter among ourselves, with the expectation that their will be a full discussion and airing of the agreement in a congressional debate before it is voted up or down. This whole process is an attempt to make fundamental law without consulting the people or even allowing the representatives of the people to be fully informed. It is a process that violates the principle that government is legitimate only if it is government with the consent of the governed.

Under these circumstances, any congressman who is prepared to support this agreement that he cannot read or streamline its passage is no true representative of the people of his district or state. It is simply not OK to be OK with that.

K&R Cleita Jan 2015 #1
K&R 2naSalit Jan 2015 #2
K&R SamKnause Jan 2015 #3
A great discussion. Thanks. This thing is outrageous. (nt) enough Jan 2015 #4
K&R! Phlem Jan 2015 #5
Anyone understand the point behind "kick"? George II Jan 2015 #6
It's to Recommend a post one agrees with or finds some value in whether they agree or not...... KoKo Jan 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #13
Any reply libodem Jan 2015 #16
Thanks, that was my point!! "Kicking" a post six minutes after it has been posted is... George II Jan 2015 #17
It's somebody's baby, though libodem Jan 2015 #18
So? What difference does it make to you? cui bono Jan 2015 #20
Yep libodem Jan 2015 #25
Any house Democrats looking to educate themselves on the TPP should watch this interview. pa28 Jan 2015 #7
Kill this abomination with FIRE!! AzDar Jan 2015 #8
Corporations own you! 90-percent Jan 2015 #9
PS 90-percent Jan 2015 #10
K&R. Some of the facts seem a bit out of date. Any idea when this video was made? JDPriestly Jan 2015 #12
Yup - way out of date. Any poster should be required to state when the material was produced. erronis Jan 2015 #22
Yes there is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #32
I saw june 2013 on one riversedge Jan 2015 #28
, blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #14
This segment includes some criticism of President Obama so it cannot be true. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #15
I recall NAFTA was a big point riversedge Jan 2015 #27
All TALK and no ACTION, have we fogotten this already? Johnny Rash Jan 2015 #19
"There would be no reason to keep it so secret if it was in the interest of the public" Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #21
Why is this out-of-date segment being presented in Greatest Threads? erronis Jan 2015 #23
K&R ... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2015 #24
GAWD--increase prescription prices!! What is Obama thinking!! riversedge Jan 2015 #26
Good Old Third Way Obama colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #29
Yeah really Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #31
I find your lack of faith disturbing. frylock Jan 2015 #30
I'm outraged that this conspiracy theory has not been banished to the CT dungeon 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #33
I can think of no better example...... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #34
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