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44. Original Intent of the 14th Amendment
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:53 PM
Aug 2015

In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

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That philosophy, imo fredamae Aug 2015 #1
Go ahead and commit suicide when corporations want to END you for ending corporate personhood... cascadiance Aug 2015 #2
Do they also want to send Blacks back to Africa? olegramps Aug 2015 #13
Yes, but it will get to the point where our society will grind to a halt. alfredo Aug 2015 #43
I want to hear Ted Cruz on this one jberryhill Aug 2015 #3
Wait, isn't he a Canadian? n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #4
Born in Canada ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #5
I believe only his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #6
The Internet says you're right. ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #8
So was Obama's mother. staggerleem Aug 2015 #11
Yep. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #12
Chunk synonyms underpants Aug 2015 #7
So...wouldn't their move disqualify 99% of us d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #9
I think the GOP gist is that even if you are born in this country, you are truly only a US citizen 4lbs Aug 2015 #15
I happen to agree with them hfojvt Aug 2015 #23
Ahhhhh...So this is another racist dog whistle d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #24
Back in the official U.S. slavery days, black men were only 3/5ths human. valerief Aug 2015 #10
you should know better than that hfojvt Aug 2015 #26
I suggest that these people read about a certain Supreme Court case, Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #14
If this becomes law, god forbid, you might as well tear up the whole Constitution Cleita Aug 2015 #17
(they've already called it "a G--- d----- piece of paper.") lastlib Aug 2015 #21
explain that to me hfojvt Aug 2015 #28
It should be important to you if you are born American. Cleita Aug 2015 #29
I wasn't JUST born American hfojvt Aug 2015 #32
I get it they aren't white enough. Cleita Aug 2015 #33
What does white have to do with it? hfojvt Aug 2015 #35
I see your point, for example Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #38
The point is, if you're born here, you're a citizen, as it should be. Borchkins Aug 2015 #39
that's not much of an argument hfojvt Aug 2015 #41
There's a difference. Borchkins Aug 2015 #50
Didn't Hitler end citizenship for German Jews when he took power? Cleita Aug 2015 #16
"Repeal the Fourteenth Amendment!" struggle4progress Aug 2015 #18
Shorter GOP: Abolish citizenship for all non-Ayrans Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #19
The BASE wants to see a roundup of ALL brown people..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #20
Ah yes...Reminds me of Malvina Reynolds' song...: classof56 Aug 2015 #36
Or 'The Monkeys' "Pleasant Valley Sunday".... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #37
end birthright citizenship for republicans captainarizona Aug 2015 #22
Which would require them to write a clause saying non birthright citizens can become president. Initech Aug 2015 #25
what do they want instead, the paper bag test? yurbud Aug 2015 #27
So much for "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..." I guess MADem Aug 2015 #30
humbug, they sure hate this country allan01 Aug 2015 #31
I weep for my country. malthaussen Aug 2015 #34
I would expect nothing less of idjit asshats. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #40
"Who you callin' an idjit asshat, ya dad-gummed flea-bitten lib'ral varmint?" rocktivity Aug 2015 #47
ROFLMAO. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #48
If they're talking about repealing the whole amendment and not just 'birthright citizenship" dflprincess Aug 2015 #42
Original Intent of the 14th Amendment MemphisTigerFan89 Aug 2015 #44
That may be what Senator Jacob Howard WANTED the 14th amendment to mean rocktivity Aug 2015 #45
Because I want to take advice from a site that cites Ann Coulter? mythology Aug 2015 #46
Trump is a Trojan Horse in the Republic campaign randr Aug 2015 #49
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