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DerekG

(2,935 posts)
107. I'm an agnostic, uncomfortable with these absolutist statements
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:38 PM
Feb 2013

You're right that this is all that counts, but you might want to curb the certainty.

living like today was my last one In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #1
Sad...I was expecting Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #25
timing is everything In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #26
Is that the secular version of 72 virgins? undeterred Feb 2013 #39
absolutely...I don't think Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #40
Reading this post. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #2
Replying to this point Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #10
Regreting I read this post. This is depressing. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #63
You're in a dark place today, my dear Taverner... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #3
Excellent Poem! Taverner Feb 2013 #11
Aw, thank you! I'm glad you like it... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #22
Kudos to you Peggy Frosty1 Feb 2013 #154
Prove it. Wait Wut Feb 2013 #4
RIGHT now? DFW Feb 2013 #5
Where do you get tangarines this time of year? TrogL Feb 2013 #21
Mostly from countries within a 3 to 4 hour flight from here DFW Feb 2013 #54
i believe differently from you so i see life differently loli phabay Feb 2013 #6
"Hell is other people" - Sartre Gorp Feb 2013 #7
Oh No! Does this mean also no rainbow bridge???? HERVEPA Feb 2013 #8
Or no doggie heaven? I was hoping to see my canine friends. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #14
this whole topic is a not true trueblue2007 Mar 2013 #167
Waiting around to die. callous taoboy Feb 2013 #9
Did I just hear a request for Townes Van Zandt? Taverner Feb 2013 #12
For you, I'd go with this pintobean Feb 2013 #19
Visited Townes' grave a few years ago. That was heavy. callous taoboy Feb 2013 #31
The version from "Heartworn Highways" is just staggering. nomorenomore08 Feb 2013 #113
That was beautifully moving Frosty1 Feb 2013 #155
I'm respectfully disagreeing with you. Loryn Feb 2013 #13
I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee! Taverner Feb 2013 #16
Any evidence for this disagreement, or do you just feel you need to believe it? HERVEPA Feb 2013 #18
no. n/t orleans Feb 2013 #53
I'm hoping that intelligent life somewhere in the universe aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #15
"He who is not busy being born is busy dying" - Bob Dylan eom Taverner Feb 2013 #17
imo: Dylan is wise In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #62
I believe it's all Energy. Up to us how we use it--whether we seek the growth/better/wise BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #20
Since resuscitation methods have improved, millions who would have died in the past are now being Cal33 Feb 2013 #23
The "white light" reported is just what your synapses do when shutting down Taverner Feb 2013 #24
Thank you. nt raccoon Feb 2013 #27
There are international institutions that have been involved in debates and discussions Cal33 Feb 2013 #28
If this is true, why have scientists never been able to document "out of body experiences"? Taverner Feb 2013 #29
Questions like yours have been asked thousands of times. If you do not intend to do Cal33 Feb 2013 #30
These charlatans fake corrleation for cause... Taverner Feb 2013 #76
wow-- orleans Feb 2013 #86
Any research that does not use the Scientific Method is flawed Taverner Feb 2013 #129
Question...how would a born-blind patient know how to describe things around him/her? Heddi Feb 2013 #116
To begin with (1) The patient also described what s/he had heard the doctors Cal33 Feb 2013 #122
You do know that blind people use the part of their brain, normally used for sight... Taverner Feb 2013 #144
I have not heard of this before. But I am familiar with the idea that it is possible for nearby Cal33 Feb 2013 #146
I see it as the other way around, we created god in Man's image Taverner Feb 2013 #148
Yes, many are doing that, especially those who claim that others who don't believe the way they do, Cal33 Feb 2013 #160
that seems clear to me too. barbtries Feb 2013 #163
Especially since gawd evolved as man did Taverner Mar 2013 #164
This thought has crossed my mind also: The representation of God as an old man in the clouds Cal33 Mar 2013 #166
I watch a lot of people die and I personally think you are wrong. mucifer Feb 2013 #119
not all the nde report seeing any white light even though ALL of their orleans Feb 2013 #55
I agree ~ open your mind In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #64
My mind is open to reasonable explanation Taverner Feb 2013 #74
who said anything about heaven? i certainly did not. orleans Feb 2013 #85
welcome back In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #90
What you are implying is that the human brain (or at least the brightest ones) is capable of Cal33 Feb 2013 #91
Why? Why does gravity bring you toward it rather than push you away? Taverner Feb 2013 #159
There are more things on heaven and Earth Horatio.... Frosty1 Feb 2013 #156
Perhaps, but the only way we can truly understand them is Scientific Research Taverner Feb 2013 #158
There is no evidence that it's "your synapses." You choose to believe that, like others Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #79
There is actually quite a bit of evidence... Taverner Feb 2013 #81
I'm familiar with scientists' explanations. It's not evidence of anything. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #84
you can also.. sendero Feb 2013 #89
An interesting website felix_numinous Feb 2013 #32
What am I doing right now? davidthegnome Feb 2013 #33
I can only go by the evidence Taverner Feb 2013 #34
There may be evidence beyond your evidence. kwassa Feb 2013 #43
This may be true, but Occam's Razor suggests not Taverner Feb 2013 #111
You may be right. davidthegnome Feb 2013 #47
it's the one thing we will never know, never have certainty about datasuspect Mar 2013 #174
Whoa. I just came for the strudel. zonkers Feb 2013 #35
I came for the porn, or, something like that. Kennah Mar 2013 #172
I have had far, far too many things happen in my life tavernier Feb 2013 #36
well said In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #65
I'd be happy if just my dogs were there. Mr.Bill Feb 2013 #37
Yes, me too. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #38
No one will be there, except for this guy: MrScorpio Feb 2013 #41
Hah! I can leave the holodeck anytime I want. hunter Feb 2013 #42
Of course. I'm not welcome in the afterlife Generic Brad Feb 2013 #44
Sounds like you've come across too many rigidly fundamentalist type of people. Are you Cal33 Feb 2013 #108
Rigid fundamentalism is more a state of mind than a place Generic Brad Feb 2013 #109
Of course it's a state of mind. But I'd say you'll find a higher percentage of them in Cal33 Feb 2013 #114
I do agree Generic Brad Feb 2013 #132
Respectfully disagree -- partially, and in terms of form. VOX Feb 2013 #45
Just because there is energy, doesn't mean its you Taverner Feb 2013 #128
Don't tell me that. femmocrat Feb 2013 #46
I believe your dogs are "up" there too. In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #48
That's a lovely image. femmocrat Feb 2013 #49
I like that! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #52
I don't have anything to lose by believing and being wrong. Separation Feb 2013 #50
I'm eating a sub. All I had ended 5 years ago. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #51
~ ~ ~ In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #59
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he cannot In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #58
but then In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #61
When I die, the universe ends as far as I'm concerned. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #66
I'm keeping my options open union_maid Feb 2013 #67
ponder this along your way today: In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #68
Thank you dear ITW union_maid Feb 2013 #69
Sorry but I will go along with Blaise on this whistler162 Feb 2013 #70
I disagree. Glassunion Feb 2013 #71
Okay, gonna get serious, right here in the Lounge pink-o Feb 2013 #72
Wondering why someone would post something like that. Festivito Feb 2013 #73
Because I am sick of this war menality! Taverner Feb 2013 #75
Oh, well, I was kind of enjoying the wonder. Festivito Feb 2013 #82
I hear you and I agree 100 percent! Frosty1 Mar 2013 #165
Well, you don't KNOW that. You believe that. There's a difference. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #77
I don't - but I am CONVINCED that there is NO GOD Taverner Feb 2013 #78
Others are equally convinced there is a God or a supreme being of some sort. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #80
+1 Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #161
Yup. One can make up any fairy tale they like. There are whole books of them. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #101
before answering this post - LiberalElite Feb 2013 #83
I never expected all the false glory when I die so... Jasana Feb 2013 #87
I believe that many become atheists as a reaction (whether consciously or not) to Cal33 Feb 2013 #88
Thank you for your kind words Cal33 Jasana Feb 2013 #92
I went through a very long journey Taverner Feb 2013 #98
Science deals with the physical. God, by definition, is non-physical. You can't Cal33 Feb 2013 #120
Nope. Most atheists just realize the belief in a god or an afterlife makes no sense. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #102
Or very young. He was still a teen-ager -- a freshman at college, I believe, and very Cal33 Feb 2013 #118
You know that you're making an offensive and belittling statement, right? Orrex Feb 2013 #124
My husband's family lost a child (his sibling) Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #150
I have no quarrel with atheism at all. You seem to be simply following what feels right to you. Cal33 Mar 2013 #170
BS. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #93
Yep, and who cares. I've got stage 4 cancer, and I don't want an afterlife. Evoman Feb 2013 #94
Am sorry to hear of your condition. I am open to most ideas about the hereafter. But, don't be Cal33 Feb 2013 #95
Got any evidence other than antecdotal? Taverner Feb 2013 #97
Yeah, I'm not buying it. Evoman Feb 2013 #99
I had a long-time neighbor whose mother passed away. A few days later while (I'll call her Mary) Cal33 Feb 2013 #106
These are both examples of antecdotal evidence Taverner Feb 2013 #112
Your traumatic experience probably was the slow type and in small doses, and it Cal33 Feb 2013 #123
You're welcome to believe in woo. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #103
Eh, I don't care. Evoman Feb 2013 #145
I'm so sorry Taverner Feb 2013 #96
Thank's bud....I appreciate it. Evoman Feb 2013 #100
Right now, I'm reading your post. hamsterjill Feb 2013 #104
I believe in neither god/s, heaven, hell, an afterlife nor ghosts ... but Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #105
I'm an agnostic, uncomfortable with these absolutist statements DerekG Feb 2013 #107
My husband is too... a la izquierda Feb 2013 #117
Yes, there will be. edbermac Feb 2013 #110
What I do know, is people have all sorts of experiences that, while perhaps not "objectively" real nomorenomore08 Feb 2013 #115
So what am I doing right now? kentauros Feb 2013 #121
I'm fucking my hand... Taverner Feb 2013 #126
That's just not true at all Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #125
.... Taverner Feb 2013 #127
I died and was resusitated. hollysmom Feb 2013 #130
Wondering why you dumped this in the Lounge. HappyMe Feb 2013 #131
Or "Took a dump in the Lounge" kentauros Feb 2013 #133
I am reality. Hear me poop. Taverner Feb 2013 #140
He wasn't thinking. pintobean Feb 2013 #134
Says the guy with a huge transparency page. Rex Feb 2013 #135
Go ahead! Taverner Feb 2013 #138
So grandpa really can't see you masturbating? Major Nikon Feb 2013 #136
And this concludes Taverner's Cheerful Thought of the Day. (c) Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #137
What can I say? I'm just puppy dogs and fucking rainbows! Taverner Feb 2013 #139
Somebody needs to throw a Crocogator in a Hurricane into the mix. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #141
Can crocogators fly? Taverner Feb 2013 #142
This needs to be explained to the walking dead WalMart shoppers because graywarrior Feb 2013 #143
The neuroscientist claims he was brain dead but yet he remembers..... yellowcanine Feb 2013 #147
I don't pretend to know one way or the other... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #149
Wishing I could take back that I opened this post liberal N proud Feb 2013 #151
How will someone be waiting for me when I'm not going anywhere? LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #152
maybe, maybe not. barbtries Feb 2013 #153
Oh, darn. Still Blue in PDX Feb 2013 #157
Until there is some type of device that can revitalize deceased people, Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #162
Actually, I will be greeted by a surgeon -- I'm donating my organs. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2013 #168
Wouldn't you love to come back for like 5 seconds Taverner Mar 2013 #169
Says who? SpartanDem Mar 2013 #171
i'm about as "feet in the ground" as much as the next guy datasuspect Mar 2013 #173
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