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DebJ

(7,699 posts)
21. and 'them' is like ten men living in NY.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:10 PM
Mar 2015

The way they have twisted my sister's head and life is just horrendous.

She has no friends, and hasn't for decades...you are only allowed to associate with other Witnesses. They have no hobbies, no interests, other than gardening and home remodeling, things they pursue as a couple, with no friends. For forty years. Forty years of isolation.

She had some real issues as a child, things she totally distorted about my mother(per her three siblings), and the Witnesses told her
"Just tell yourself you are not upset and that is the answer. Emotions are a tool of the devil, so choose to not feel them." Whatever you do, they said, Don't talk to you mother, no, don't work it out, don't find out the truth...that would be feeding Satan's ability to use emotion to get to you. My sister decided this was effective and had 'fixed' her issues. Meanwhile, she shut her parents and her sisters pretty much out of her life completely. for 40 years. And never, ever spoke, until two years ago in some phone calls, of her perception that our mother had abused her. We heard her details, and other nutsy things she said, and realized she needed a psychologist, badly. We lived in a small home and nothing like what she described happened...my mother had merely given my sister some advice on how to make herself attractive to a man, in the manner that a woman born in 1928 might well do, and my sister had taken offense at this... Mom told her not to eat too much and put on weight because then no man would want her... this was a reflection of my mother's own self-image (my sister looks very much like my Mom) and her firm concept that without a husband, a woman is nothing, useless, so Mom was doing what she felt was in my sister's best interests. Ever after that, my sister considered herself abused, and hated our mother. In discussions of this with our Aunt, the Aunt described my sister as a young child as someone who seemed to have an attachment disorder, a child who never wanted to be hugged, cuddled, kissed or touched. This is all very bizarre, to discover when my sister is now aged 58.


My sister convinced herself, literally convinced herself, that my mother was always insane. She told us this a year ago, and the next thing we know, she had convinced my parents to live with her. Parents whom she only visited maybe 4 times in 40 years, for a day or two each time, and whose phone calls she didn't bother to return for months at a time. My parents were in very early stages of dementia. I was horrified, and very concerned, but couldn't get my other two sisters to accept what I was saying until over the ensuing months, strange things and a trail of lies began to be very evident. My sister wouldn't spend any time with my mother at all, though they were living in the same house. She wouldn't even answer my mother when she was 6 feet from her and Mom asked her a direct question. And many other oddities. Within two weeks of their arrival, my sister asked us to declare our parents totally incompetent and give her control of their medical and financial matters. Our parents were not incompetent in either fashion at that point. Next thing we know, my sister is plying my mother with antidepressants, without her or anyone's knowledge. When we found out, we stepped in to stop it. My mother was very ill two weeks ago, and I went to my sisters (8 hour drive away) to visit for a week. To my horror, I found out that by using four different doctors in the ER, my sister had put my mother on 2 anti-depressants, 1 anti-anxiety med, and 2 other psychoactive drugs....within 5 days, all these new meds being dumped into my 86 year old mother, who by this point had advanced rather severely in her dementia. The drugs INCREASED her anxiety, she was in a constant panic. I can't describe the horror I witnessed, of a woman who was already disoriented by dementia, being chemically put into total panic..... for 8 long hours... happened 3 nights in a row before I saw where the meds were, logged them down, and blew my stack! I insisted we go to Mom's GP and have him review this nightmare, he pulled all the drugs thank God except on short-term use antidepressant. Next step: we find that one other sister had documents naming her as guardian (thank God). The sister with whom my Mom lived keeps pushing now to try to get that guardianship transferred to her, or for my sister to give her some proxy status.... because, I'm telling you, she has a twisted need to stuff Mom with psych drugs to justify her stance of apparently 40 years that Mom was 'always insane'. By now, my sisters and brothers-in-law know what is really going on. Mom went in a nursing home and my other sister is taking guardianship, so at least my twisted sister can't hurt her anymore.

That's the result of the Witness advice, to not work things out with family members...because you know, if you talk to non-Witness family members, they might wake you the hell up.

There are so many other twisted things, it makes me sick. I used to allow Witnesses in my home, glad to discuss the Bible with anyone...though never to agree. But after this nightmare of the past year, and seeing how they totally screwed my sister in so many, many ways, i don't know what I'll do if one knocks on my door ever again. But it won't be pretty.






I just let my dog, 'Fluffy,' answer the door pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #1
ha! nt steve2470 Mar 2015 #11
Fluffy was in the first Harry Potter movie. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #31
LOL. lovemydog Jun 2015 #70
Why don't you answer the door naked? KamaAina Mar 2015 #2
They would enjoy it too much? Xyzse Mar 2015 #3
Then instead just yell, very loudly, "Dave's not here." pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #4
"Sorry, can't help you. I didn't see the accident" underpants Jun 2015 #78
Because depending on the age of those at the door hippywife Mar 2015 #46
I just set off the big rig air horn that I have placed opposite the doorbell. Kablooie Jun 2015 #87
I tell them "No thanks, I have my own religion". They give me a confused look. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #5
I get the same emotional reaction to political canvassers out to save me with their passive-aggressi LanternWaste Mar 2015 #6
I was once awakened from a hangover that would have killed hifiguy Mar 2015 #7
My first inclination is to slam the door ailsagirl Mar 2015 #8
I answer the door like this: PassingFair Mar 2015 #9
LOL!!! ailsagirl Mar 2015 #10
Lol! cwydro Mar 2015 #12
Hitchens smoking in the shower!! Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #32
Back in the day, Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2015 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #74
They tried us during our vacation on Cape Cod once DFW Mar 2015 #13
I'd like to see someone address them in Klingon, lol. nt pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #14
I'd be afraid some of them know it as their native language! n/t DFW Mar 2015 #15
Bazinga! pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #16
I'd like to answer the door as a Klingon! Archae Mar 2015 #28
That's hilarious!!! ailsagirl Mar 2015 #17
Had one today Sherman A1 Mar 2015 #18
That's how we handle these interactions as well. Jenoch Mar 2015 #23
Ah, yes, the Mormons..... DFW Mar 2015 #33
Once a Mormon missionary accosted me while I was walking hifiguy Mar 2015 #35
They are not supposed to behave in that manner, Jenoch Mar 2015 #38
Then they'll be back shortly. alphafemale Mar 2015 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #73
They do LiberalElite Mar 2015 #19
and 'them' is like ten men living in NY. DebJ Mar 2015 #21
That's pretty messed up. hippywife Mar 2015 #47
People usually develop such dysfunctional behavior from childhood. Duppers Jun 2015 #72
Well, there were four daughters. DebJ Jun 2015 #93
I usually just mess pipi_k Mar 2015 #20
One of the things I like about my town... Major Nikon Mar 2015 #22
So don't ya wish libodem Mar 2015 #24
They are unfailingly polite and non-racist... Tom Ripley Mar 2015 #25
I am not grateful for them handmade34 Mar 2015 #41
I find them to be very polite Skittles Mar 2015 #26
I disagree. noamnety Jun 2015 #76
hmmmmmm Skittles Jun 2015 #82
Currently I am not. noamnety Jun 2015 #90
Last time they stopped, I thought it was some pagan friends here for Samhain csziggy Mar 2015 #27
I hand them a Dianetics book olddots Mar 2015 #29
Well played indeed! hifiguy Mar 2015 #36
Talk to the cat..... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #30
Ceiling Cat! hifiguy Mar 2015 #37
Good one! NJCher Mar 2015 #40
I woman I worked with... CherokeeDem Mar 2015 #34
Ha! Now, that is funny! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #55
My cousin was a Jehovah's Witness. NNadir Mar 2015 #39
Beautiful...... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #42
Nice story SHRED Mar 2015 #43
Thank you for sharing your story, NNadir. hippywife Mar 2015 #48
Many years ago Mormons would "visit" every day RazzleCat Mar 2015 #44
I respect your faith, but I don't share your faith. Now I'm going to ask you to leave. Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #45
You are nice to say this, AM... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #54
I did this stupid thing once. Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #59
They stopped by last Thursday. BarbaRosa Mar 2015 #49
Too busy setting up a blood drive sharp_stick Mar 2015 #50
I've never had one come to my door. Inkfreak Mar 2015 #52
Tell them you're catholic... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #53
Even better, tell them you are an atheist. RebelOne Jun 2015 #68
How quickly does the blood drain from their face? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #69
I really hate having strangers come to my door. Demoiselle Mar 2015 #56
There's only one sure-fire way to get rid of them jmowreader Mar 2015 #57
Are you searching for answers to the questions of life? (paraphrased) shireen Mar 2015 #58
This post ought to say it all. UTUSN Mar 2015 #61
I have a ceramic sign next to my doorbell that reads: No solicitors, religious or otherwise. LuckyLib Mar 2015 #62
I hate when that happens. So many stories. n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #63
I just point to a placard which has my family name on it. sakabatou Jun 2015 #64
I'd agree that they LiberalElite Jun 2015 #65
Lots of religious people do that "see themselves as "superior". raccoon Jun 2015 #94
I don't answer the door. I remember my mom and dad had different styles. Avalux Jun 2015 #66
play this for them seveneyes Jun 2015 #67
I always tell them: (1) I agree with their anti-war stand; (2) I really admire the history struggle4progress Jun 2015 #71
Yep, same reaction here. Also dislike the Mormons & the bots from our local megachurch that bother catbyte Jun 2015 #75
I react the same way towards political canvassers. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #77
Tuesday night the doorbell rang. I was cooking. My wife answered underpants Jun 2015 #79
they can't get down my road anymore Kali Jun 2015 #80
Answer naked Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #81
My wife had a standing tea time with some JWs for some time Telcontar Jun 2015 #83
I didn't realize they actually would come into one's house ailsagirl Jun 2015 #84
You can always say "Hail, Satan" LiberalEsto Jun 2015 #85
We have a sign near the doorbell that says, "No Solicitors -- religious or otherwise. We are happy LuckyLib Jun 2015 #86
When I was home on maternity leave a father-son team of Jehovah's Witnesses rang my doorbell Danmel Jun 2015 #88
I just bought a shirt for 6 bucks Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2015 #89
A house around the corner from us had a hand written sign on the door: IDemo Jun 2015 #91
Last time that happened to me in the States DFW Jun 2015 #92
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