Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
6. There are many reasons why Labour imploded in Scotland.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:51 AM
Jun 2016

We had a decade or so dominated by Labour leadership infighting and factionalism.

The media coverage read like a synopsis of a cheap knock-off of Game of Thrones with a cast who took themselves and their careers and grudges entirely too seriously. Policy and performance were sidelined, and part of their demise was that people got impatient and looked at a party that wasn't navel-gazing, at least focused on pressing issues even if it didn't have immediate solutions, and decided they could relate to that much better.

People had a left-of-centre-ish option that eventually displayed enough competence as it gradually accrued power to turn to. You don't have that luxury in the rest of the UK at the moment. That's chilling. In some ways, it might have been better for Labour to have split after the last election. It would be a long haul, but at least they'd have made a start.

This interminable focus on personalities, fuelled a by a drooling media, isn't gaining any votes.

To preface this: I think the rebels are doing the wrong thing, and fiddling while Rome burns LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #1
Trying to understand what's going on. Matilda Jun 2016 #2
A tiny handful aren't, but the overwhelmingly majority are. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #3
It's a bit surreal. Matilda Jun 2016 #4
No, absolutely not. The rebels are about 70% of the PLP, from across the left wing of the spectrum. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #8
If they succeed, there will be no left-of-center proposals in the next Labour manifesto. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
Is Corbyn a good leader? Dworkin Jun 2016 #5
I can see where the comparison to Foot could be made RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #20
And I think Corbyn and his team do understand television. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21
Not particularly IMO; but then neither is anyone likely to replace him LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #22
There are many reasons why Labour imploded in Scotland. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #6
Easy: because practically every word you've written is a black lie. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #7
Dude, shrieking "Lie!" Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #9
A few points in response. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #10
Ok, forgive the bluntness, but if he's a liar!!!!, you're a bullshitter. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #11
Spot on about perception. Dworkin Jun 2016 #13
Blairism was nothing but Tory-lite. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #16
Corbyn wants to win the election just as much as you do. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
For some muppet shrieking "Lie" every paragraph, you certainly enjoy telling them ... (n/t) Nihil Jun 2016 #19
OK. It's war. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #12
those numbers... Ironing Man Jun 2016 #14
Well ... Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #18
Latest Discussions»Region Forums»United Kingdom»If Corbyn is dumped, why ...»Reply #6