If Corbyn is dumped, why should anyone who cares about workers and the poor bother voting Labour?

[Ken Burch]

17. Corbyn wants to win the election just as much as you do.

It's not as though the only way for Labour to do that is to tell the idealists and the young that they aren't welcome, to continue agreeing with the Tories on defense, and to prevent the reestablishment of internal democracy.

It's possible to win an election without watering your principles down to nothing and accepting Mideast war and the Bomb as eternal parts of life.

And I stand by my assertion that it is impossible to support the benefits cap and the Tory budget charter and still do anything at all ti help the poor. There is no such thing as "doing more with less"

And Dan Jarvis was a former Special Forces commander. No one who did that is ever capable of working for a peaceful world as prime minister. He's always going to be a warmonger and he will always prefer to spend money on weapons than on making a decent society.