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Ken Burch

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21. And I think Corbyn and his team do understand television.
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jul 2016

That's why Labour isn't in third place in the polls(as it was for much of the time that Foot was leader).

If Tony Benn had been elected leader in 1981, Labour would have done far better in the next election. Tony was always great on television and had much more personal charisma than Foot(admirable man that Foot was).

In the same sense, if Corbyn does go, John McDonnell would be the logical successor as leader. He would carry on Corbyn's transformative project in politics and internal party governance(Labour cannot be a radical government if the internal structures set up by Blair are kept in place), yet conveys far more personal energy and is better on television than Corbyn is.

Nothing could justify erasing everything Corbyn stands for and going back to what labour would be like if Yvette Cooper had been elected...a party of permanent war and permanent austerity, a party that was going to offer nothing to the Northern and Eastern English voters who switched to UKIP as much out of despair and a feeling of irrelevance as anything else(it's the leadership of UKIP that is bigoted, not so much the voters).

To preface this: I think the rebels are doing the wrong thing, and fiddling while Rome burns LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #1
Trying to understand what's going on. Matilda Jun 2016 #2
A tiny handful aren't, but the overwhelmingly majority are. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #3
It's a bit surreal. Matilda Jun 2016 #4
No, absolutely not. The rebels are about 70% of the PLP, from across the left wing of the spectrum. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #8
If they succeed, there will be no left-of-center proposals in the next Labour manifesto. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
Is Corbyn a good leader? Dworkin Jun 2016 #5
I can see where the comparison to Foot could be made RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #20
And I think Corbyn and his team do understand television. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21
Not particularly IMO; but then neither is anyone likely to replace him LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #22
There are many reasons why Labour imploded in Scotland. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #6
Easy: because practically every word you've written is a black lie. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #7
Dude, shrieking "Lie!" Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #9
A few points in response. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #10
Ok, forgive the bluntness, but if he's a liar!!!!, you're a bullshitter. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #11
Spot on about perception. Dworkin Jun 2016 #13
Blairism was nothing but Tory-lite. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #16
Corbyn wants to win the election just as much as you do. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
For some muppet shrieking "Lie" every paragraph, you certainly enjoy telling them ... (n/t) Nihil Jun 2016 #19
OK. It's war. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #12
those numbers... Ironing Man Jun 2016 #14
Well ... Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #18
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