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T_i_B

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16. I think many of them couldn't win due to RW baggage

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:08 PM

Jul 2016

In fact one of the great challengers that the non Corbyn cultist wing of Labour faces is to move the debate on beyond electability v ideological purity. I know I keep blathering about this but without competence you can't have either. The British left needs to go back to the most basic stuff of all.

Also, challengers who have tried to establish a working relationship with Corbyn will have more credibility than those who flounced out the moment he got elected. In fact you wonder if the creepy Corbyn cultists have asked themselves if Eagle & Smith are so bad, then why did Corbyn appoint them in the first place?

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Labour leadership candidate Owen Smith opens the contest with a disgraceful smear against Corbyn [View all] Ken Burch Jul 2016 OP

Pffft! T_i_B Jul 2016 #1

Corbyn and his supporters have been abused, disrespect, slandered and lied about from the start. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #2

So much bullshit, so little time... T_i_B Jul 2016 #17

I'm not a cultist, and I've done nothing to deserve personal insults from you. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21

You don't look at the facts T_i_B Jul 2016 #26

I constantly look at the facts. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #27

That's not a smear RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #3

That's not what the report said. And Corbyn, as a life-long opponent of all forms of bigotry Ken Burch Jul 2016 #4

He has platformed with anti semites on multiple occasions RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #6

This smear is so trite that it's amazing you think it's worth trotting out endlessly. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #8

What smear? RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #9

Yeah, fucking trite. James Bloodworth's an opportunistic ally of the delightful Will Straw. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #10

Oh, and in case you're tempted to drag Bloodworth Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #13

Those were at civil liberties events. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #22

So probably have all party leaders LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #15

True. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #23

Frankly, I think there has always been antisemitism in all parties LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #5

Absolutely RogueTrooper Jul 2016 #14

Well, so much for my guarded optimism that Smith wanted to talk about policies. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #7

Could it be that the Big Hitters on the Labour Right see him as a useful stooge .... non sociopath skin Jul 2016 #11

T_I_B and I have discussed elsewhere Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #12

I think many of them couldn't win due to RW baggage T_i_B Jul 2016 #16

Corbyn tried to assemble a shadow cabinet of rivals, Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #18

All the stories I keep hearing T_i_B Jul 2016 #19

We'll maybe find out something like the truth one day. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #20

The "stories you keep hearing" are the rumors spread by Portland Communications Ken Burch Jul 2016 #25

If they want amazing competence, they should go with John McDonnell. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #24

So you admit Corbyn is incompetent? T_i_B Jul 2016 #29

No. But McDonnell may be MORE competent than Jeremy. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #30

I really wonder if there is anyone capable of leading Labour... BooScout Jul 2016 #28

It's telling that the anti-Corbynites haven't been able to offer a compelling alternate leader. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #31

Gotta totally disagree with your RE: Corbyn's treatment being worse than Hillary's.... BooScout Jul 2016 #32

Corbyn's been falsely accused of praising terrorists. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #33

So? Hillary has been accused of being a terrorist...what's your point? BooScout Jul 2016 #34

Wasn't intended as a pissing match-I was hoping you'd feel some empathy. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #35

I have no empathy for Corbyn... BooScout Jul 2016 #36