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Denzil_DC

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11. And as an example of how unbelievably stupid the whole media thing's got,
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:04 PM
Aug 2016

I caught the headlines on BBC Radio 4's evening news programme just now. Apparently there's a scandal because somebody had filmed Corbyn walking past empty seats on that train on the way to the leadership hustings where he ended up sitting on the floor.

So I headed online, where even Twitter apparently has more investigative capacity and sense of news values than the BBC does.

Richard Branson, who obviously has no vested interest in reports of chronic train overcrowding, released some CCTV footage from the train supposedly proving there were empty seats that Corbyn walked past.

Here's Corbyn walking past "empty seats"



Note the red cards, which indicate they're reserved.

And in the end, here's the damning shot of Corbyn sitting - in a seat, shockhorrorhowdarehe!!1! - in Coach H,



where, as may happen when the rest of a train's dangerously overcrowded, a ticket inspector had shuffled people around so that groups could sit together, and directed those without First Class tickets to find more comfortable accommodation, freeing up a seat for Corbyn in Coach H.

And here's an eyewitness report - it seems the media has the resources to hunt out intemperate tweets from people, but not to find anything that blows their latest silly season story out of the water.



Now, it took up five minutes of my life to figure all that out. And the BBC just ran another two-minute report on it. Is it any wonder people are tuning out?

And to cap it all, gratifyingly, Branson appears to have fallen foul of the Streisand Effect:

Passengers dispute Virgin Trains' claims about Jeremy Corbyn 'sitting on floor' video

The row over whether Jeremy Corbyn had to sit on the floor of a Virgin train has taken a new twist after passengers on the service disputed the company’s version of events.

Earlier this month Mr Corbyn released a video of himself sitting on the floor of a Virgin East Coast train arguing that “this is a problem that many passengers face every day”.

The train company, however, has released CCTV stills showing Mr Corbyn finding a seat on the train, saying that it “clearly wasn’t the case” he could not find somewhere to sit. Though Mr Corbyn did not claim that there were no seats on the train, he said it was “ram-packed”.

Other people on the train have however come forward to say it was in fact very busy, at least at the start of the journey.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/passengers-dispute-virgin-trains-version-of-jeremy-corbyn-sitting-on-floor-video-a7205631.html
Smith does appeal slightly more to the moderate left muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #1
It's worth pointing out that Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #2
Fieldwork was 11th-15th of August, they published it on the 16th muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #3
Yes, therefore still in the honeymoon period. n/t Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #4
OK, we better stop talking then, until you deem the honeymoon period is over. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #6
Well, I have been rather quiet recently! Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #9
Whilst EU withdrawal should be the greater issue.... T_i_B Aug 2016 #5
Yes LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #8
It's certainly been hogging the media's interest. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #10
And as an example of how unbelievably stupid the whole media thing's got, Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #11
It does show Corbyn's team in a rather stupid light T_i_B Aug 2016 #12
You're being silly...but would anyone actually object to Branson himself being nationalized? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #13
If you nationalise Branson..... T_i_B Aug 2016 #14
Careful. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #15
This story is going to run and run.... T_i_B Aug 2016 #16
Yeah. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #17
And not to Labour the point ... Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #18
Corbynite priorities...... T_i_B Aug 2016 #37
That is quite wrong LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #38
And leaves on the track! LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #19
Thanks for that response. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #7
Here's Smith's ideas T_i_B Aug 2016 #20
That's all well and good. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #21
It comes back to the same, depressing problem T_i_B Aug 2016 #22
There are personal vendettas in play here. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #23
PURGE! PURGE! PUUUUUUURGE! T_i_B Aug 2016 #24
Not a purge. I don't personally favor kicking anyone out of your party. That's not my business. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #25
Mediocrities who hide their inadequacies in extreemism RogueTrooper Aug 2016 #26
LOL. You wanna see a "Stalin-style purge"? Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #27
On the contrary T_i_B Aug 2016 #28
Rather than worry about what "purges" may happen in the future, Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #29
If Owen Smith were to be elected after all these exclusions Ken Burch Aug 2016 #30
Peaceful is it? T_i_B Aug 2016 #31
Being so ridiculously selective in your outrage Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #32
One man's "self defence" is another mans GBH T_i_B Aug 2016 #33
Well, good. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #34
Instalment 2 Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #35
Yawn T_i_B Aug 2016 #36
"Yawn" Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #39
Wrong T_i_B Sep 2016 #40
"the Labour leadership contest is all about personal vendetta's" Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #41
Actually I was thinking of something different about the SNP T_i_B Sep 2016 #42
Well, Labour in Scotland's woes are manifold, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #43
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