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Denzil_DC

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29. Rather than worry about what "purges" may happen in the future,
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

I'd worry more about what's happening right now, as it's angering many, reducing the party to even more of a laughing stock, and will rebound on the perpetrators and those who excuse their behaviour and imagine they'll benefit from it.

If the boot was on the other foot (I've no doubt you can cite some examples of Smith supporters who've been inappropriately deprived a vote - the whole debacle is panicky and scattergun, and it's expected that as many as 75% of those disenfranchised could gain back their vote if they bother to appeal, rather than walking away in disgust which seems to be what the coup plotters hope will happen), the squawking about such a concerted antidemocratic ultra-authoritarian campaign would be headline news all day every day.

And your sense of "purges" is an odd one. If you set up a system that claims to be democratic, if people choose to use that system to vote out those they feel don't represent them in favour of those they feel will do so, how is that "Stalinist"? It's the essence of our political system. The top-down purges right now, the outright war on a wide sector of the "misbehaving" party membership, fit your description much better.

Given the goings-on described above, maybe you could explain to me why it would be inappropriate to use legitimate channels to seek to remove as many of the NEC members responsible for this power-mad nonsense as possible at the earliest opportunity (bearing in mind that some who're doing the vetting, like Johanna Baxter mentioned above, have just lost their NEC seats anyway, and may be driven by something other than the party's best interests in their actions)?

Smith does appeal slightly more to the moderate left muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #1
It's worth pointing out that Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #2
Fieldwork was 11th-15th of August, they published it on the 16th muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #3
Yes, therefore still in the honeymoon period. n/t Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #4
OK, we better stop talking then, until you deem the honeymoon period is over. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #6
Well, I have been rather quiet recently! Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #9
Whilst EU withdrawal should be the greater issue.... T_i_B Aug 2016 #5
Yes LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #8
It's certainly been hogging the media's interest. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #10
And as an example of how unbelievably stupid the whole media thing's got, Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #11
It does show Corbyn's team in a rather stupid light T_i_B Aug 2016 #12
You're being silly...but would anyone actually object to Branson himself being nationalized? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #13
If you nationalise Branson..... T_i_B Aug 2016 #14
Careful. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #15
This story is going to run and run.... T_i_B Aug 2016 #16
Yeah. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #17
And not to Labour the point ... Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #18
Corbynite priorities...... T_i_B Aug 2016 #37
That is quite wrong LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #38
And leaves on the track! LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #19
Thanks for that response. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #7
Here's Smith's ideas T_i_B Aug 2016 #20
That's all well and good. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #21
It comes back to the same, depressing problem T_i_B Aug 2016 #22
There are personal vendettas in play here. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #23
PURGE! PURGE! PUUUUUUURGE! T_i_B Aug 2016 #24
Not a purge. I don't personally favor kicking anyone out of your party. That's not my business. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #25
Mediocrities who hide their inadequacies in extreemism RogueTrooper Aug 2016 #26
LOL. You wanna see a "Stalin-style purge"? Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #27
On the contrary T_i_B Aug 2016 #28
Rather than worry about what "purges" may happen in the future, Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #29
If Owen Smith were to be elected after all these exclusions Ken Burch Aug 2016 #30
Peaceful is it? T_i_B Aug 2016 #31
Being so ridiculously selective in your outrage Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #32
One man's "self defence" is another mans GBH T_i_B Aug 2016 #33
Well, good. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #34
Instalment 2 Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #35
Yawn T_i_B Aug 2016 #36
"Yawn" Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #39
Wrong T_i_B Sep 2016 #40
"the Labour leadership contest is all about personal vendetta's" Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #41
Actually I was thinking of something different about the SNP T_i_B Sep 2016 #42
Well, Labour in Scotland's woes are manifold, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #43
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