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Ken Burch

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7. It's often the people at the top of any electoral effort who are the least responsive to feedback.

Reply to T_i_B (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:26 PM

Sep 2016

And I would have voted Remain, don't get me wrong on that. There was a case for it.

But really, winning the day for Remain would have meant getting the UK political elite to pledge that they would make a unified effort to fight against the neoliberal, low-employment economic model the EU(and especially Merkel)seems determined to impose on Europe(look at senselessly brutal way they treated Greece, forcing that country to economically punish the majority of the Greek population for crimes the old center-right Greek establishment and the banks were solely to blame for).

Can you really imagine Cameron or even any of the figures the anti-Corbynites would have preferred to lead Labour ever making such a commitment?

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New email leaks reveal Jack Straw was very grateful for Brexit, and for the most disgusting reason [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2016 OP

The actual email is published below: Ken Burch Sep 2016 #1

So the Canary is distorting things? T_i_B Sep 2016 #2

Then it was Straw's son who was to blame for the Leave victory. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #3

Wrong again T_i_B Sep 2016 #4

I forgot another major gripe with "Stronger In"! T_i_B Sep 2016 #5

It's often the people at the top of any electoral effort who are the least responsive to feedback. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #7

Actually, much of my feedback was taken on board T_i_B Sep 2016 #9

There's no such thing as "the Corbyn cult". Ken Burch Sep 2016 #6

Actually, the Lib Dems are winning by elections round here.... T_i_B Sep 2016 #8

Momentum have had to fight a defensive campaign simply to keep Corbyn in the job Ken Burch Sep 2016 #10

No excuse for not looking beyond the leadership contest T_i_B Sep 2016 #11

Corbynites aren't doing party infighting. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #12

Telling more porkies about the problem won't fix anything T_i_B Sep 2016 #13

They have to devote themselves to keeping Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #14

Wriggle as you might on Straw's behalf and attempt to smear the messenger, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #15

Looking at what's been happening local to me... T_i_B Sep 2016 #16

Well, for a start, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #17

This is undeniably an issue T_i_B Sep 2016 #18

You keep saying, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #19

Didn't realise Bristol was local to you! T_i_B Sep 2016 #20

In all seriousness though... T_i_B Sep 2016 #21

The new (more Corbyn-friendly) entry to the NEC don't take office till conference. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #22

Trouble is, I can see the writing on the wall T_i_B Sep 2016 #23

Nope. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #24

About the only chance Scottish Labour has of recovering anytime in the next two decades Ken Burch Sep 2016 #25

There are many reasons why Scottish Labour's in such a state. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #26

The SNP's new membership RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #27

Chris McEleny, the only candidate from a local government background, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #28

The SNP does vigorously police its new left wing brand RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #29

I wouldn't have voted for the SNP nationally Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #30