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Denzil_DC

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26. There are many reasons why Scottish Labour's in such a state.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:30 PM
Sep 2016

I won't repeat them yet again!

Corbyn's not responsible for that, but he won't help much either, as he has a surprisingly tin ear for Scottish politics. He takes his briefings from the incompetent Scottish Labour bigwigs and can't be seen to contradict them, so we get absurdities like his not long ago blaming the SNP for "privatizing" the rail network when the last round of tenders were bid. When later asked to clarify what on earth he meant, he claimed they should have gone for renationalization. The fact is, that's a power reserved to Westminster - it would have been plain illegal to have any public body bidding for the contracts. I don't expect him to talk sense about Scottish politics, so I'm not disappointed! (Smith fared even worse on his brief visit up here, FWIW - the boy makes it up on the hoof, and came a cropper for contradicting Labour policy in Scotland at least a couple of times.)

Scottish Labour's caught in a cleft stick.

If it develops the autonomy it needs to adopt distinct policies that appeal to the Scottish electorate, then it'll inevitably be in conflict with rUK Labour, and the question will have to be answered: Why even be part of the larger body? And the even bigger question: Who the hell can trust them to deliver?

But Scottish Labour's a million miles away from developing coherent policies, so it has to rely on SNP Bad. And in saying so, it's implying that all those Labour voters and members who joined the SNP are either eejits or bad as well. So good luck wooing them back ...

I've spent more than the last couple of decades being infuriated by Labour and many of its major figures. Maddening barely covers it!

The actual email is published below: Ken Burch Sep 2016 #1
So the Canary is distorting things? T_i_B Sep 2016 #2
Then it was Straw's son who was to blame for the Leave victory. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #3
Wrong again T_i_B Sep 2016 #4
I forgot another major gripe with "Stronger In"! T_i_B Sep 2016 #5
It's often the people at the top of any electoral effort who are the least responsive to feedback. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #7
Actually, much of my feedback was taken on board T_i_B Sep 2016 #9
There's no such thing as "the Corbyn cult". Ken Burch Sep 2016 #6
Actually, the Lib Dems are winning by elections round here.... T_i_B Sep 2016 #8
Momentum have had to fight a defensive campaign simply to keep Corbyn in the job Ken Burch Sep 2016 #10
No excuse for not looking beyond the leadership contest T_i_B Sep 2016 #11
Corbynites aren't doing party infighting. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #12
Telling more porkies about the problem won't fix anything T_i_B Sep 2016 #13
They have to devote themselves to keeping Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #14
Wriggle as you might on Straw's behalf and attempt to smear the messenger, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #15
Looking at what's been happening local to me... T_i_B Sep 2016 #16
Well, for a start, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #17
This is undeniably an issue T_i_B Sep 2016 #18
You keep saying, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #19
Didn't realise Bristol was local to you! T_i_B Sep 2016 #20
In all seriousness though... T_i_B Sep 2016 #21
The new (more Corbyn-friendly) entry to the NEC don't take office till conference. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #22
Trouble is, I can see the writing on the wall T_i_B Sep 2016 #23
Nope. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #24
About the only chance Scottish Labour has of recovering anytime in the next two decades Ken Burch Sep 2016 #25
There are many reasons why Scottish Labour's in such a state. Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #26
The SNP's new membership RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #27
Chris McEleny, the only candidate from a local government background, Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #28
The SNP does vigorously police its new left wing brand RogueTrooper Sep 2016 #29
I wouldn't have voted for the SNP nationally Denzil_DC Sep 2016 #30
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